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idiot said:
I don't buy it, especially the part about Rivers and Miller starting right away. But here I'll have to bow out, having not seen either of these guys play. I'm just doubtful that even if this is a better draft than last year's that the odds are on our side in this type of swap.
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No way Q.Miller could start right away. Not even sure he could get playing time right away. I was high on him to start the season, but he has a lot of work to do before he becomes an NBA player.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Unless you are really high on the guys at those two picks, I'm not doing it. This trade would have to be done on draft day, because it would be stupid to do it before if you don't know who is exactly dropping. I also doubt the Jazz have a great grip on who they are really high on yet as combines and workouts haven't started yet. Sounds like most of this talk is just the begging of negotiations where both teams ask for ridiculous stuff and they eventually settle on a fair deal at the last possible moment.
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Just got back from study group? Welcome.

Absolutely correct. All depends on who drops. Even before that, it depends where those picks ended up to be after the lottery.

What I'm simply saying is it's not out of the realm of possibility to consider a Kanter for #14 & #16 type trade to be possibly beneficial to us.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Just got back from study group? Welcome.

Absolutely correct. All depends on who drops. Even before that, it depends where those picks ended up to be after the lottery.

What I'm simply saying is it's not out of the realm of possibility to consider a Kanter for #14 & #16 type trade to be possibly beneficial to us.
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It's fairly outside the realm, especially when they are asking for Millsap also. Even just Kanter, still outside the realm.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
It's fairly outside the realm, especially when they are asking for Millsap also. Even just Kanter, still outside the realm.
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Well Millsap's got 1 year left. What is he worth in the market?

Also may be you start with that and may be another team got the wind of it and offer you something better.

I like Kanter. But if we can get a future-solid-potential 'stud' PG and SF from this draft? I'd do it. No questions asked.

We'd still have Favors, it's not like we've got nothing left.
 
I really like Kanter .. but we can't get caught up in where 'x' player was selected. It's all about winning and not justifying. Additionally, it's about contracts ($ and term). We fans over-simplify it all, much too often.
 
PKM said:
I really like Kanter .. but we can't get caught up in where 'x' player was selected. It's all about winning and not justifying. Additionally, it's about contracts ($ and term). We fans over-simplify it all, much too often.
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Agreed, but trading away a 19 year old center is still really risky. The prospect of trading Kanter away and getting guys like Terrance Jones and Rivers doesn't bother me, it just bothers me when you throw in Millsap (of course we would be getting a player back to match salary) also.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Agreed, but trading away a 19 year old center is still really risky. The prospect of trading Kanter away and getting guys like Terrance Jones and Rivers doesn't bother me, it just bothers me when you throw in Millsap (of course we would be getting a player back to match salary) also.
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Totally agree. That's why, I presume, there's no deal in place. That's what is currently on the table and the talks are 'active.' This is the only reason I bring it to the board .. not so much because of the current deal, but the active talks.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Agreed, but trading away a 19 year old center is still really risky. The prospect of trading Kanter away and getting guys like Terrance Jones and Rivers doesn't bother me, it just bothers me when you throw in Millsap (of course we would be getting a player back to match salary) also.
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He doesn't have the hops. That's fine. But he also doesn't have the size or length of Bynum or Marc Gasol neither. I'm not sure he's that much of a lock as our future Center that he's completely untouchable.
 
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