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Following potential 2012 draftees

cowhide said:
PKM, thanks for all the Jazz love. I love this board and all the different opinions. I don't care if the rumors come true or not. Most what you say is intelligent and interesting. I want to give a SHOUT out to all Jazz nation. We may bitch and moan about what we like and dislike about the Jazz but WE ARE THE JAZZ NATION!!! One thing we can all agree on is that Life would not be as grand without our UTAH JAZZ!!!!
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Wow, what a fan you are! If you ever come to istanbul, let me get you to some basketball and soccer games, it would be fun to watch games with a fan like you.
 
I am on the east coast so it is not as early as you think to have my first beer. I am actually sober but just feeling the fan love. Life is good today. Enes Cantear You Apart - I will keep you in mind if I visit Turkey.
 
The funniest thing about all of this is I am positive KOC is having conversations with almost every team in the nba. Pkm has some info on a few of the conversations and I am positive they are going on. I love to get that insider info though. Thanks pkm and I like to think I have a little info on college players.
 
Xthren said:
The funniest thing about all of this is I am positive KOC is having conversations with almost every team in the nba. Pkm has some info on a few of the conversations and I am positive they are going on. I love to get that insider info though. Thanks pkm and I like to think I have a little info on college players.
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No doubt, X .. not a complete list without you for sure. I agree that KOC is most likely speaking with everyone with no exceptions. My contacts aren't Jazz specific, so I would only know the things that spill over to things that involve those contacts .. and I'd guess it's an extremely small percentage of the overall Jazz picture.
 
PKM said:
Was travelling most of yesterday. Thanks for the kind sentiments. I assure you I never got mad at anyone on this board. Hantlers - I laughed when I saw your mocking .. I know it's all in good fun and part of any board. I actually got miffed at the deal not happening if I'm being honest. I know these things happen (or don't happen), but it's one that, in my opinion, this one should have gotten done.

There's not a single poster on this board that I wish would go away. I may tell them to die or something, but again, it's just part of an internet community and what makes it all good fun.

Back to the topic .. I have been less 'loose' with things I hear because I see how it spirals out of control .. I don't know, maybe that's just fine, but I don't like to be the one that initiates any hopes getting up.

Also, as far as me not sharing as much 'knowledge' about player's games .. back in November of 2011, when this thread was started, it seemed only a few posters here knew anything about any HS and collegiate guys .. now, it seems most everyone in this thread knows quite a bit about most of the good ones and my input isn't as needed. I do still feel like I know a lot of the little peripheral things (attitude, work ethic, intangibles, intricate parts of their game) because I've seen most all of them, in person, multiple times, over multiple years .. and I'll continue to share those things as I see they may be helpful .. but this board has become much more knowledgable, as a whole, than the average NBA fanbase, I bet.
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By the way, here's what GSW offered the Jazz and how the Jazz countered (for a couple of you that I've already PM'd this to, I worded it wrong the first time, even though there's no difference, per se).

GSW offered to lower the protection of next year's pick ('13) from top 7 to top 3. This, in exchange for Jazz agreeing to guarantee GSW this year's pick.
Jazz countered with the Jazz being guaranteed the '13 pick (rather than 3 protection) AND wanted GSW's 2015 1st, lottery protected.
The info gets a little fuzzy here .. but from what I understand, KOC was prepared to negotiate to the 'middle' by walking away from the '15 pick and just taking '13 unprotected. I was told the Jazz were confident the latter deal would certainly fly and the feeling was GSW would take the deal as well .. but talks ended before any further negotiation ever took place, which surprised the Jazz.

This made me a bit frustrated. Not at KOC or even GSW .. just that it was one that should have gotten done and at least we'd be looking at getting GSW's pick next year, guaranteed.
 
PKM said:
By the way, here's what GSW offered the Jazz and how the Jazz countered (for a couple of you that I've already PM'd this to, I worded it wrong the first time, even though there's no difference, per se).

GSW offered to lower the protection of next year's pick ('13) from top 7 to top 3. This, in exchange for Jazz agreeing to guarantee GSW this year's pick.
Jazz countered with the Jazz being guaranteed the '13 pick (rather than 3 protection) AND wanted GSW's 2015 1st, lottery protected.
The info gets a little fuzzy here .. but from what I understand, KOC was prepared to negotiate to the 'middle' by walking away from the '15 pick and just taking '13 unprotected. I was told the Jazz were confident the latter deal would certainly fly and the feeling was GSW would take the deal as well .. but talks ended before any further negotiation ever took place, which surprised the Jazz.

This made me a bit frustrated. Not at KOC or even GSW .. just that it was one that should have gotten done and at least we'd be looking at getting GSW's pick next year, guaranteed.
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Not a bad deal. The GSW offer is crap though.
 
PKM said:
By the way, here's what GSW offered the Jazz and how the Jazz countered (for a couple of you that I've already PM'd this to, I worded it wrong the first time, even though there's no difference, per se).

GSW offered to lower the protection of next year's pick ('13) from top 7 to top 3. This, in exchange for Jazz agreeing to guarantee GSW this year's pick.
Jazz countered with the Jazz being guaranteed the '13 pick (rather than 3 protection) AND wanted GSW's 2015 1st, lottery protected.
The info gets a little fuzzy here .. but from what I understand, KOC was prepared to negotiate to the 'middle' by walking away from the '15 pick and just taking '13 unprotected. I was told the Jazz were confident the latter deal would certainly fly and the feeling was GSW would take the deal as well .. but talks ended before any further negotiation ever took place, which surprised the Jazz.

This made me a bit frustrated. Not at KOC or even GSW .. just that it was one that should have gotten done and at least we'd be looking at getting GSW's pick next year, guaranteed.
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I can almost guarantee that we get the pick next year anyway, so while it would have been nice for that trade to go through now that we know we didn't get help from the lottery, fact is we would have all been very pissed if the pick would have ended up number 8 and warriors would have kept it just so we could have next years pick guaranteed.

The warriors will be AT LEAST a little better next year having bogut, curry, lee, thompson and this years #7 pick. Probably alot better... so i will go ahead and guarantee that we get next years pick right now. I figure they will be slotted no worse than 10th in next years draft so the only way i see us losing out on that pick is if they get EXTREMELY lucky and land in the top 3 after the lottery.
 
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