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Following potential 2014 draftees

orangello said:
Well considering the ambush I got last year I'm gonna go with Smart.

In all honestly, I really see one of Wiggins/Parker/Embiid/Exum falling and being available at 5. I'd go with whoever falls and if they are all gone the Smart is my guy.

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It's between Smart and Gordon for me.

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damnit all can't people have an opinion. jeez take a chill pill (and I am old enough to have used this as a teenager)

one of the hardest thing to predict is how a player is going to develope

vonleh has all the tools even the ones that fell under the workbench but is he going to ever learn how to use them all. he seems like a good kid and one that likes to be in the gym. I just question his fire to grab the other team by the balls and then rip them off. if he gets a killer instinct he will be the best player in this class.

Gordon has a lot of tools but hasn't put them all together. that is the problem. one minutes this is great but at the same time something else is awful. if he can learn to rebound, block shots, score, shoot in the same game wow he can be special. in all honesty his free throws scare the pee out of me. free throw shooting is essential and taught at a young age. when I was on the practice squad in college we gained playing time by how well we shot free throws. needless to say I went from a 70% ft to about 85%. the only explanation I can come up with is he was coddled to much.

smart has a few tools but this desire and energy to use them all. if intensity was all it took then smart would be the best. the problem is his lack of proper training in a lot of the fundamentals. if he gets a good trainer that gets him to break his game done he has a chance to be the best pg in the nba. he is the one that will grab the other team then destroy them
 
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Good analysis, gamer.
Maybe a little hyperbolic on Smart; I don't think he has the chance to be the best PG in the NBA. But he could certainly be top-10 IF he improves key aspects of his game. Vonleh's fire is the only thing that concerns me. And we have kind of a parallel with Marvin Williams. Not quite as talented, but a very good all-around game, just no attitude to go with it.

As much as I LOVE Vonleh and think he is BPA, I'm guessing the pick will be Gordon. The Jazz need defense. And they need passion. Hayward, Favors, Kanter, Burks...none of those guys play with fire. I think Gordon can pick the team up in that respect. And that lessens the gap between him and Vonleh, especially if you also take into account need.
 
I just want to say that some people need to realize that we all love the Jazz and want them to get better. We can have differences of opinion without the name calling. I come here to discuss the Jazz and not listen to middle school nonsense.
 
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Mark Titus from Grantland;

I will need to summon all the self-control I have to avoid using this entire space to gripe about how underused Vonleh was in Tom Crean’s offense at Indiana. I could write about how he was the best low post player in the Big Ten yet he seemed to get the ball on the block only two or three times a game. I could write about how Yogi Ferrell made just enough deep 3's in transition that Indiana didn't seem to care that he missed two of those same shots for every one he made, and how those possessions could’ve been steered in Vonleh’s direction. I could write about how Stanford Robinson had more Big Ten games with double-digit shot attempts than Vonleh had.

Which makes it all the more remarkable that Vonleh averaged 11.3 points and 9.0 rebounds (best in the Big Ten) last season despite only playing 26.5 minutes and operating in an offense that rarely featured him.
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I will be the bigger man here and say I'm sorry for talking about Vonleh and not knowing the whole situation. This really made me rethink, honestly I think the reason I was so against drafting him is because the Jazz already have Favors and Kanter. With the Jazz coming out and saying they see Favors as a center, they might be foreshadowing drafting a power forward at #5.

The Jazz saw him at a private workout in New York last week and they will get him in for a workout sometime in the next three weeks.

All of this being said, Kanter could be on his way out. A Vonleh and Favors duo will co-exist better then a Favors and Kanter duo I believe.

White Chocolate's big board as of today;

1. Joel Embiid
2. Jabari Parker
3. Andrew Wiggins
4. Dante Exum
5. Aaron Gordon
6. Noah Vonleh
7. Marcus Smart
 
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I'll big board it as off today too:

This isn't based off anything more than who I think will be the better player at the spot, 5 years from now....

-Embiid
-Parker
-Wiggins
-Vonleh
-Exum
-Gordon/Smart
-Randle/McD

I'll change this 4-5 more times.....
 
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