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BTP said:
So to create no misunderstanding as I'm not familiar with the term "blue-chip" team and google suggested blue-chips are high profile recruits. But Kentucky is totally crowded by these prospects. So I guess google tricked me as it doesn't make any sense. And Kentucky has a long basketball tradition if I'm not mistaken. I find it hard to believe that Cal would have problems establishing a project that combines collegiate athletes and sure fire NBA prospects. Imo the reason why he has to rebuild every 2nd or 3rd year is because the "worst" player he recruits are borderline NBA players. And those will take their chances after a chip of course. Replace those with hungry "real" student athletes, who actually want to graduate and have a "smaller" pro career the next 10 years and I think he'd be way more successful. But that's of course a question of team philosophy. Maybe he is even more happy to overrecruit the top prospects to not let Smart/Sullinger situations happen more often as he seems to be genuinely more invested in his players than the organisation he represents.
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With all due respect, he does. People have short memories. In the past decade Cal has a higher winning% than any other coach. Last year was the anomaly, not the norm.

Ever hear of Dominique Hawkins? Jon Hood? Derek Willis? Jared Polson? How about Brian Long??
These are all kids on next years team that will likely never play in the NBA but were recruited to be solid 4 year guys.
I think the real issue with Cal's rep is the media spin. He is so dominant in recruiting that there's no story... therefore a negative spin is put on it. Funny that he gets questioned for recruiting stables of one and dones but EVERY one of those players were being hotly pursued by Duke, UNC, Louisville, Kansas, UCLA... etc. Then the spin becomes these other teams are doing it 'the right way.'

LMAO!

Oh, and yes, a "blue-chip" prospect is what google said.. I meant to say "blue blood" programs... the perennial powerhouses.
 
PKM said:
With all due respect, he does. People have short memories. In the past decade Cal has a higher winning% than any other coach. Last year was the anomaly, not the norm.

Ever hear of Dominique Hawkins? Jon Hood? Derek Willis? Jared Polson? How about Brian Long??
These are all kids on next years team that will likely never play in the NBA but were recruited to be solid 4 year guys.
I think the real issue with Cal's rep is the media spin. He is so dominant in recruiting that there's no story... therefore a negative spin is put on it. Funny that he gets questioned for recruiting stables of one and dones but EVERY one of those players were being hotly pursued by Duke, UNC, Louisville, Kansas, UCLA... etc. Then the spin becomes these other teams are doing it 'the right way.'

LMAO!

Oh, and yes, a "blue-chip" prospect is what google said.. I meant to say "blue blood" programs... the perennial powerhouses.
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Well I guess I learned something new. While I don't know anything about any of those, Polson's stats make him look like a rotation player w/o inclusion on the offensive end, Long and Hood look like practice guys. I was talking more about guys who have a real shot at a pro career, which it doesn't look like with those 3 who already spent multiple seasons there, Correct me if I'm wrong.
I guess that comes with the recruitment strat and maybe other programs are more desirable for players and their individual growth who plan to spend the full four years and tour Europe afterwards.
Was just a thought of mine to balance out rosters with a more continuous spectrum. I guess players like Harrow and Wiltjer would fit right in what I mean by this. And both have surrendered to the amount of incoming talent.
You being familiar with their players, was it WCS' and Poythress' plan to spend multiple years there or is this a result of not improving enough over the last year and risk of falling out of their desired draft slots?

Kentucky is among those blue-blood programs, am I right? What I found weird when checking out Duke is that they have a 9000 seat arena which is 100% sold out in a city region where 2 slightly "smaller" programs have 20k seat arenas... I guess that hurts that school revenue quite a bit.
 
BTP said:
Well I guess I learned something new. While I don't know anything about any of those, Polson's stats make him look like a rotation player w/o inclusion on the offensive end, Long and Hood look like practice guys. I was talking more about guys who have a real shot at a pro career, which it doesn't look like with those 3 who already spent multiple seasons there, Correct me if I'm wrong.
I guess that comes with the recruitment strat and maybe other programs are more desirable for players and their individual growth who plan to spend the full four years and tour Europe afterwards.
Was just a thought of mine to balance out rosters with a more continuous spectrum. I guess players like Harrow and Wiltjer would fit right in what I mean by this. And both have surrendered to the amount of incoming talent.
You being familiar with their players, was it WCS' and Poythress' plan to spend multiple years there or is this a result of not improving enough over the last year and risk of falling out of their desired draft slots?

Kentucky is among those blue-blood programs, am I right? What I found weird when checking out Duke is that they have a 9000 seat arena which is 100% sold out in a city region where 2 slightly "smaller" programs have 20k seat arenas... I guess that hurts that school revenue quite a bit.
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Kentucky has won more games than any other college team.
Has also won the highest % of games.
2nd to UCLA in chips.. and these two are far ahead the pack
Yes. A blue-blood.

WCS was recruitee as a multi-year player as was Wiltjer.. and neither went pro. Poythress was supposed to be a one and done but didn't get it done so we have him back... and that's the plan. Recruit 7 guys every year that are future pros and get two or three back each year.... unless you win a chip.
 
Here are some Archie Goodwin highlights from Summer League. I know Gobert was a great pick, but Goodwin would have also been an excellent pick at #27.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SwNxuSQ_L6Y


I hope Burks plays this aggressively.
 
When Burks is not playing PG, he is pretty damn fearless. People forget how good he was in his rookie season it seems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1Lv6mAejSY
 
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