Following potential 2014 draftees

[mellow]

What do jazz do if Embiid falls to #5? Having never had him in to check out the back or the foot?

And Chicago is not going to amnesty boozer. They could have for the past three years and didn't, and the owner has said something similar to KOC they are not going to pay a player not to play.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 5m
Also hearing Cavs were scared off by Embiid's foot, now focusing on Jabari or Wiggins (Jabari is the favorite). Unbelievable turn of events.

Really bad news for us.

Us being those who want jabari or wiggins. It will be a lot harder to trade up to 1 vs 2 or 3.

Too bad for Embiid, but for all those in the other thread who were getting on me for saying "I hadn't seen Embiid's medical report and wouldn't put him at #1"....HA!
There were red flags AFTER his workout in Cleveland. And now we hear it's also his foot. If not Greg Oden, this guy certainly looks like Sam Bowie 2.0.

What do jazz do if Embiid falls to #5? Having never had him in to check out the back or the foot?

DL needs to post a picture of Curtis Borchardt on the draft room wall to remove any temptation. Embiid is more likely to become a GM killer than the next Hakeem.

 

[da ThRONe]

No, but technically Giannis, Lebron and Kevin Garnett had the same issue.

Well LeBron played against Carmelo. Then you had the whole AAU circuit to measure James against all the US top players. He was far from an unknown. Antetokounmpo was barely a lotto pick.

 

[orangello]

Tier 1 - healthy Embiid

Tier 2 - Wiggins

Tier 3 - Parker, Vonleh, Randle, Gordon, Smart (in no particular order)

Tier 3a - McDermott

I'm starting to wonder if Embiid will ever be healthy.

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[mellow]

I'm starting to wonder if Embiid will ever be healthy.

That's what he wants you to think.

 

[orangello]

Chicago doesn't need to do that trade. They can amnesty Carlos.
DL should step in and grab the extra picks. However, he's stated the scouting staff needs to justify using the 23rd and 35th on players, so he may not want additional assets this season. If I were Dennis, I'd definitely try to get one of those picks. Cash and the 35th might be enough to do it since the 35th is pretty high, but still not guaranteed. It would be make a lot of sense for Chicago.

Chicago is cheap. They'd rather trade Boozer.

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[Dr. Jones]

Yes, you take Embiid at #5.
No, he will not be on the board.

 

[Game6Conley]

What ****ty luck and timing for Embiid... wow

Wiggins to me, has looked like the #1 pick in this draft for years now. I've never moved him from that spot throughout the process and now its even more likely he goes 1st.

Last month bettingshark,com had the odds of going 1st overall as;

Wiggins 2/3
Embiid 8/5
Parker 5/1
The Field 15/1

If anyone can find some updated June odds, I've got rep for ya.

 

[Stifle Tower]

This idea doesn't get enough burn in this thread. As far as getting great return on the asset, this option could end up a home-run.

I'd Target 2017 personally, with the GSW pick already there it gives the jazz a comfortable plan Z, to blow this team up if it isn't working by then.

though it could be a good idea to target 2016, as potential 2017 draftees are likely and rumored to be moving up a class.

Probable 2016 lottery pick, Jaylen Brown is exactly the type of player the Jazz could use.

With Chicago and Phoenix shopping their picks, the market might be soft. The future first could have lottery protection on it for a few years. Chicago and Phoenix have better picks to offer.

 

[Stifle Tower]

This is a great read.
Could Embiid be hiding potential chronic back issues, especially given that he had problems in HS (credit to The Thriller for scooping all of us)?
Wouldn't be the first time a player and his agent have been less than truthful about pre-existing medical conditions.

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-...portland-feeling-leg-pain-212349458--nba.html

 

[Park Bites]

hmmmm embiid at #5 is worth the risk.

 

[Hantlers]

My final Draft Tiers and Ratings

Tier 1

Wiggins 99
Embiid 98
Parker 97
Vonleh 97
Exum 97

Teir 2

Julius Randle 95
Doug McDermott 94
Marcus Smart 92
Aaron Gordon 92
Jusuf Nurkic 91
Rodney Hood 91
Zach LaVine 90
Nik Stauskas 90
Dario Saric 90

Teir 3

Adriean Payne 89
TJ Warren 89
Tyler Ennis 89
Elfrid Payton 89
James Young 88

Teir 4

PJ Hairston 86
Bogdan Bogdanovic 86
Clint Capela 86
Jordan Clarkson 86
Shabazz Napier 85
Kyle Anderson 85
Walter Tavares 85
Cleanthony Early 85
KJ McDaniels 84
Jerami Grant 84
Jarnell Stokes 84

Tier 5

Spencer Dinwiddie 84
Damien Inglis 82
Vasilije Micic 82
Glenn Robinson III 82
Mitch McGary 81
CJ Wilcox 81
Jordan Adams 81
Artem Klimenko 80
Thanasis Antetokounmpo 78
Nikola Jokic 77
Semaj Christon 76
Deonte Burton 76
Jahii Carson 76
Markel Brown 73
DeAndre Daniels 73
Josh Huestis 73
Jabari Brown 71
Ioannis Papapetrou 70

So Alex Len is on the same level as Parker, Exum and Vonleh?

Interesting.