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Following potential 2015 draftees

2 to bust ehh? Basing it somewhat on where I expect them to go (as in a bust at #10 has to be worse than a #1 pick to be a bust). I'd go Porz and Winslow. Porz has bigtime potential but at the same time I could pretty easily see him never putting on much muscle and being Ryan Anderson. Winslows shot just looks all wrong to me, and I think he'll have his moments, but hustle only does so much (I think Faried on this).
 
I don't have a link but Portis is saying that his doctor told him he's still growing and will reach 7.0.

If true is that good or not for his stock?
 
Broncster said:
Fair enough, But I do think its a bad trade for the Jazz and I do think the FO would want nothing to do with that trade either. I could see us moving up in the draft but not with one of our starters. Come draft day if someone in one of the players Jazz have in Tier 1 or Tier 2 falls a few picks then maybe we cash in lots of draft picks, stashed players (not worth much right now) and maybe Burks or one of the scrubs on the end of the bench gets traded to move up.

Seems much more likely we trade our pick for a player than a player for a pick. FO has said they dont really want more rookies and had too many last year.
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I agree that the jazz won't make that trade..... I wouldn't do that trade either btw.
 
stitches said:
... if you trade any of our core pieces, you have to trade Hayward too. I think he will just leave when his contract expires if you take away his ability to compete during his current contract and make him go through another rebuild.
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I don't understand this thought process.
Imo trading favors does not equal rebuild. I think Hayward, Gobert, Burks, and hood are still a good core. If favors was traded they would have lots of money to spend right? Why wouldn't the jazz be aggressive in free agency and go after millsap, Aldridge, or a good pg like lawson or someone and try to make the playoffs?

I'm not so certain trading favors = doomsday and destruction for the jazz franchise as we know it like some of you think.
 
I agree that I don't think the Jazz will trade up.

I am more aggressive in my approach that I would like the Jazz to take but I am sure that I am ignorant on realities. I see teams needing 3 stars to be competitive and I think Hezonja could fit one of those spots. If we could get Hezonja without giving up one of our foundation players (Gobert, Hayward, Favors) then I would do it. I really like Burks and Hood and I think they are going to have great years next year. But I don't see them being able to command the defensive attention to open up the floor that Hezonja could.

I would trade picks and include Burke and Burks to get it done. Of course, finding a trade partner is the trick.

But, the wise move is probably what the FO will do and that is be patient with the 12 pick. There are very good prospects that will be available at 12 without depleting our assets. GS proved that depth is critical and role players are important too.

This next year we are, if we avoid injuries, will get a full year out of Gobert, Burks and Hood. That will make a considerable difference in results this coming year.

I still hope we get a lower first round pick and pick up Rondae Hollis-Jefferson or Chris McCullough. Either one of those could be a real nice addition to the depth as role players that can develop.
 
mdalby said:
But, the wise move is probably what the FO will do and that is be patient with the 12 pick. There are very good prospects that will be available at 12 without depleting our assets. GS proved that depth is critical and role players are important too.
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This.
I hope no one is traded on draft day.
Take the best dude there at 12 and let that mutha ****ing cake bake!
 
fishonjazz said:
I don't understand this thought process.
Imo trading favors does not equal rebuild. I think Hayward, Gobert, Burks, and hood are still a good core. If favors was traded they would have lots of money to spend right? Why wouldn't the jazz be aggressive in free agency and go after millsap, Aldridge, or a good pg like lawson or someone and try to make the playoffs?

I'm not so certain trading favors = doomsday and destruction for the jazz franchise as we know it like some of you think.
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If Favors was traded we wouldn't have lots of money to spend simply because we will have to take contracts back to do it(and quite possibly horrible contracts like the Calderon one)

Aldridge is a pipe-dream, he would get max from 10 other teams before he chooses the Jazz. We can pursue Millsap this summer anyways(without trading Favors) and he's possibly the only all-star level talent we have any shot at. And I still don't think we are going to get him... Also nobody said it would be "doomsday and destruction for the jazz franchise as we know it", but I think it sets the franchise back and it would kick in another rebuild, simply because I don't believe we will be competitive(free agents of the quality of Favors simply don't come to Utah) and I don't think Hayward will be happy with it. I think the chance he leaves is huge if we are not competitive in the next 2 years time.
 
stitches said:
If Favors was traded we wouldn't have lots of money to spend simply because we will have to take contracts back to do it.

Aldridge is a pipe-dream, he would get max from 10 other teams before he chooses the Jazz. We can pursue Millsap this anyways(without trading Favors) and he's possibly the only all-star level talent we have any shot at. And I still don't think we are going to get him... Also nobody said it would be "doomsday and destruction for the jazz franchise as we know it", but I think it sets the franchise back and it would kick in another rebuild, simply because I don't believe we will be competitive(free agents of the quality of Favors simply don't come to Utah) and I don't think Hayward will be happy with it. I think the chance he leaves is huge if we are not competitive in the next 2 years time.
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I just think it doesn't automatically equal rebuild.
I think the jazz would probably have options and would be open minded and think of other possible ways to continue to improve the team and try for the playoffs.
I think there would be more to it than simply trade favors. Give up and rebuild.

Im just thinking outside the box a little and seeing that there is more than one possibility of a favors trade
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
The pick I would love is a move up for Her Lasagna.
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I'd be ok with most everybody else in our range, with 2 exceptions.
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The 2 picks I'd hate are Lyles and Dekker.
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Sleeper pick after super Mario is Frank the Tank. I think the doubters will be wrong about him, especially in the right situation. I think he makes a bigger impact, sooner than most the other guys in our range.
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You had me until the Frank part. Solid until then.

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fishonjazz said:
I just think it doesn't automatically equal rebuild.
I think the jazz would probably have options and would be open minded and think of other possible ways to continue to improve the team and try for the playoffs.
I think there would be more to it than simply trade favors. Give up and rebuild.

Im just thinking outside the box a little and seeing that there is more than one possibility of a favors trade
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Let me put it this way - for the span of the next two years(when Hayward can opt out and leave), anything you can do while trading Favors, you can do without trading him(getting a Lawson type of PG, getting high level free agent, etc. - one might say that by having him it would be easier to attract free agents). Trading Favors doesn't open any doors short-term, it only closes doors and short term is what matters for keeping Hayward in my mind... If he sees the franchise resetting again and again without giving it a shot at contending, what's the chance he will be willing to waste his best years as a basketball player for a perpetual rebuilding machine of a team?

If you trade Favors you do it for the long-term. And if you do it for the long term, you better just reset the whole thing before you lose your franchise player for nothing.
 
No to trading Favors. I like him too much.

If you have to trade somebody to get the 4 I'd trade Hayward. Replace him with Hezonja. Or just keep everyone and draft whoever's at 12. Looney or Turner.
 
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