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One page away from 1,000. Any other draft stuff we should discuss?

How far up does #42, #54 and cash get the Jazz in this draft? And is there anyone worth moving up for? Rumors that the Lakers, Celtics and Blazers all want to move out of the bottom of the first to preserve cap space this summer. I'd happily buy #23 and take the best player at that spot. Would love to end up with Turner and maybe Hunter out of this draft.
 
sojodave said:
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Report from @WojYahooNBA that Charlotte is looking to move Cody Zeller. Could Zeller be third big to Favors and Gobert? Former #4 pick

I just threw up in my mouth...yuck
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To piggyback on this:

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Y! Sources: Charlotte's shopping Cody Zeller hard for wing players. If Zeller gets moved, Frank Kaminsky will be serious candidate at No. 9.

Would be good news for us, means a better player will fall.
 
White Chocolate said:
I have nothing, lol?











Wait for it.. You are going to say you were talking about Grant being a better distributor. But, clearly THJ was talking about pick n roll and you replied to that with this:



Try to take the easy way out, idc, you were wrong. Man up.
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Once again, I never referenced pick and roll. I asked by what measure, he said "eye test". That is what I was responding to.
 
Doublea said:
@Lockedonsports: Frank Kaminsky "If they (Utah Jazz) are going to draft me I am not going to say no. I feel I can fit in pretty much anywhere"

That makes me feel so much better...
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I'm fine with Kaminsky. I'd much rather have the upside of Turner or Johnson, but if they're both gone at 12 the Jazz could do worse than a 7'2" stretch 5 who can shoot 3's. There's always room for that skill set. Especially from off the bench.
 
White Chocolate said:
To piggyback on this:

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Y! Sources: Charlotte's shopping Cody Zeller hard for wing players. If Zeller gets moved, Frank Kaminsky will be serious candidate at No. 9.

Would be good news for us, means a better player will fall.
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No to Zeller. And good riddance to Kaminsky.
 
That stat isn't a damning as you think it is. It just means that Wright took the shot off the pick more often. He ranks fourth on points created by assist, and the margin is much larger. Also if you track by possession rather than just 40 minutes, Wright ranks 5th. It just means that Utah ran the pick and roll more often than did the other teams with top lead guard prospects. seattlejazzfan isn't necessarily wrong.
 
framer said:
That stat isn't a damning as you think it is. It just means that Wright took the shot off the pick more often. He ranks fourth on points created by assist, and the margin is much larger. Also if you track by possession rather than just 40 minutes, Wright ranks 5th. It just means that Utah ran the pick and roll more often than did the other teams with top lead guard prospects. seattlejazzfan isn't necessarily wrong.
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Pick and Roll Points per-40 Minutes Adjusted for Pace

The proliferation of the pick and roll as staple of NBA offenses places a premium on the ability of a player to score in the two man game. The league's top guards score around a third of their points per game handling the ball in the pick and roll, albeit at varying levels of efficiency. As is the case with shot creation in general, the varying degree in the level of competition of our sample of draft prospects hampers our ability to make a real apples-to-apples comparison. Cameron Payne was outstanding in the OVC in both one-on-one and pick and roll situations, but was clearly in better position to create for himself against the less athletic competition he faced on a nightly basis. Even so, the per-minute productivity of our sample of prospects pales in comparison to that of the top NBA guards, as NBA teams fall back on high level shot creators far more frequently than their college counterparts. The number in parentheses is each player's points per possession as the ball handler in the pick and roll.

Top Prospect Leaders
Delon Wright 7.1 (0.92)
Cameron Payne 7 (0.94)
Joseph Young 6.4 (0.92)
D'Angelo Russell 6.3 (0.97)
Olivier Hanlan 5.7 (0.81)

We're talking stricly pick n roll, it doesn't matter who ran the pick n roll more.

Say Utah ran it 100 times with Delon Wright as the ball handler and they scored 95 points off of it, that's 0.95 points per possession as the ball handler in the pick n roll.

Now say Murray St. ran it 30 times with Cam Payne as the ball handler and they scored 28 points off of it, that's 0.93 points per possession as the ball handler.
 
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