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Following potential 2015 draftees

Crocodile Dante said:
let's take a look -

ny - towns - needs everything. towns is #1 in my book
minny - okafor - good fit next to pekovic. could go Russell
Philly - russell - finally get a back court player who can shoot.
lakers - mudiay - might as well start with a pg
Orlando - Winslow - improves their defensive identity and can actually hit 3 pt. this team is a beast defensively and athletically.
sactown - wcs - I could see them liking kaminsky and might be a good trade partner for the jazz. wcs is a great fit next to cousins but kaminsky create better spacing.
Denver - hezonja - they need a wing Johnson is also an option but IMO hezonja is a better fit.
Detroit - porzingis - security for the loss of Monroe besides svg loves bigs who can shoot.
charlotte - Johnson - why not draft the mkg with a jump shot.
Indiana - kaminsky - is BPA but I could see then take looney and try to develope him into another David west.
Utah - not much else on the board
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I really think SVG will go kaminsky instead of porzingis. Franks more nba ready.
 
This draft is becoming nice and deep. Guys like Harrell and Lavert are projecting in the 20s. Lyles in the 20s would be a good get for any team.
 
ONE LOVE said:
If we're trying to replicate the Spurs model, they have Duncan & Splitter who are inside scorers starting. Then they have Diaw and the Red Rocket firing away from 3 point line subbing in at various points in the game to give balance.


We already have our Duncan & Splitter in Gobert and Favors. We need outside shooting to balance that out - Tomic won't provide that.
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Tomic fits the Diaw mould far better than Frank does.

Diaw buzz-sawed the Heat because of his passing-prowess-- not because of his very pedestrian volume of three-point shooting.

Also, hilarious that you bring Bonner up-- he averaged 6.1mpg in the postseason last year.
 
I really, really love Frank the Tank. With that said, Tomic is probably a top-10 passing center in this planet right now (and that's being generous).

If we think Frank is BPA, then you take him, no questions asked. We can cut-ties with Booker, and sign Tomic to a tradeable contract.

With that said, I would prefer drafting a three-point gunner that can D up, while snagging Tomic from Europe. We need a Danny Green more than we need a gunner at the 5.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Not sure about that. I think they view Drummond as their only core piece and he is only 21. They gotta treat it like a full rebuild and draft high risk/high reward.
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Coach/GMs don't do full rebuilds. I can almost promise they make short term type moves. SVG may be smarter than that though.
 
dalamon said:
I really, really love Frank the Tank. With that said, Tomic is probably a top-10 passing center in this planet right now (and that's being generous).

If we think Frank is BPA, then you take him, no questions asked. We can cut-ties with Booker, and sign Tomic to a tradeable contract.

With that said, I would prefer drafting a three-point gunner that can D up, while snagging Tomic from Europe. We need a Danny Green more than we need a gunner at the 5.
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Agree.
If Utah could get a legit shooting threat at the 4, Favors and Gobert could still start, but the stretch-4 could get 30 mins+, with Favors sliding to the 5 when Gobert is out. I think that's the direction Utah needs to go with the bigs.

Still think our #1 problem is at PG. Not sure how Utah fixes that in free agency or via the draft.
 
Good discussion going....

I really like Hezonja and think he can be very similar to Klay Thompson, and better offensively in some respects (e.g., cutting and finishing at the rim). One big question with the Jazz is what Rodney Hood is going to be. His numbers as a rookie overall aren't great, but he's had some nice shooting games recently. The Jazz have to decide whether he's viable as a starter going forward. I still like Hezonja more than Winslow for the Jazz, though I like them both, and if Hezonja comes into reach the Jazz should pounce.

If we're talking about a back-up big to spell Favors at the PF and stretch the floor, then I'm okay with any of Looney, Portis or possibly Lyles and would be ecstatic with Porzingis. I don't really believe Kaminsky will play PF much. His mobility is good for a 7-footer, but I don't think he'll keep up with most PFs in the league. He's better off playing center and would be a very good back-up, replacing much of what we lost with Kanter offensively, though he's not the same rebounder.

I think the Jazz are going to bet on Exum developing as a PG. They're in good shape if he pans out anywhere near expectations. With Hayward on the floor, it will continue to take pressure off of Dante.

If the Jazz can come away with Hezonja, Porzingis or Winslow, the draft will be a resounding success.

If not, then Johnson, Oubre or Looney would still be a win in my book.
 
kabenac said:
I think Andrew Harrison endorses Kaminsky in the draft.

But it's amazing how people drink the Kool-Aid when a player has a good NCAA run. Example: the Trey Burke hype was pretty mediocre until the tournament began and as it progressed a lot of us became obsessed with drafting Burke.

Yet, oddly enough, Hayward didn't garnish a lot of support pre-draft after the tournament. I know some forum posters wanted him but not a lot of people had him as their first choice.

Though I will add slaying the Kentucky dragon is very impressive.
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There is FAR more watching of prospects by Jazzfanzers than there was at that time. Things would be way different now.
 
dalamon said:
I really, really love Frank the Tank. With that said, Tomic is probably a top-10 passing center in this planet right now (and that's being generous).

If we think Frank is BPA, then you take him, no questions asked. We can cut-ties with Booker, and sign Tomic to a tradeable contract.

With that said, I would prefer drafting a three-point gunner that can D up, while snagging Tomic from Europe. We need a Danny Green more than we need a gunner at the 5.
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best hedge ever tbh
 
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