Following potential 2015 draftees

[stitches]

The numbers when Kanter and Gobert played together were actually pretty good, so I could see Kaminsky and Gobert working well together.

Not really.

Kanter and Gobert front court was -6.6 points per 100 possessions, which was our worst PF/C combo by a huge margin. The next worse was Kanter and Favors at -2.5.

https://www.basketball-reference.co...l=&c4stat=&c4comp=ge&c4val=&order_by=diff_pts

 

[Doublea]

Not really.

Kanter and Gobert front court was -6.6 points per 100 possessions, which was our worst PF/C combo by a huge margin. The next worse was Kanter and Favors at -2.5.

https://www.basketball-reference.co...l=&c4stat=&c4comp=ge&c4val=&order_by=diff_pts

I swear there was some article that said they had pretty decent numbers.

 

[orangello]

If he was a defensive stopper and had his offensive skill set he'd be a top 5 pick... No perfect players bro.

Not asking for a perfect player but I also don't want a defensive liability (See Burke, Trey and Kanter, Enes).

 

[Doublea]

Prediction: The Hornets draft Booker.

 

[The Midnight]

I know people that have this requirement in looking for a wife and they can't figure out why they aren't married.

I think it's more like they choose not to get married though.

 

[orangello]

Prediction: The Hornets draft Booker.

Then I'm just wasting my time.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

No, Kanter's value plummeted much later, and that's mostly on him. It was Millsap and Jefferson's value that took the hit at the time. We took on two big men, each drafted #3 overall. There was no future on the team for Millsap and Jefferson after that. They knew it. The whole league knew it. We as fans turned on them because we thought they were standing in the way of Favors and Kanter. No way they were going to stick around.

All I'm saying is logjams can force front offices into bad decisions. Look no further than the Suns' point guard situation this year.

Well, at least we are closer to being on the same page now. Although I don't agree that the logjam killed Alsap's trade value, I do believe it was a huge mistake not to move at least one of those players for rebuilding pieces. Players of that caliber can always bring back draft pick/s at the deadline by teams looking to strengthen their rosters for the playoffs. Jazz fans want to assume they weren't moved because they had no value, which is hogwash. Utah was committed to trying to make the playoffs with a flawed team that was built on a weak foundation, and it was that faulty direction that delayed the decision to rebuild. Jazz fans should thank their lucky stars we didn't sneak into the playoffs again, or Utah may not have decided to go full rebuild, and we'd still be struggling to find our way out of mediocrity, instead of being on the cusp of having the best team we've had since John and Karl.

 

[BTP]

Pretty clear that booker would have a better attitude than Kanter... My guess is Oubre would have more drive than kanter did as well. That guy is all kinds of weird. We shouldn't compare anyone to him really.

Somehow whenever I watched Oubre play, I saw Nick Young in front of my inner eye. I don't know if it's the hair dye, or the weird playstyle, similar bodyshape or whatever. Just wanted to share that for no particular reason.

No, Kanter's value plummeted much later, and that's mostly on him. It was Millsap and Jefferson's value that took the hit at the time. We took on two big men, each drafted #3 overall. There was no future on the team for Millsap and Jefferson after that. They knew it. The whole league knew it. We as fans turned on them because we thought they were standing in the way of Favors and Kanter. No way they were going to stick around.

All I'm saying is logjams can force front offices into bad decisions. Look no further than the Suns' point guard situation this year.

Build this man a church, nah scratch that, a temple already. The top 50 players will strive regardless of their situation, just simply to a different
degree.
For everyone else fit/situation matters a lot.

Prediction: The Hornets draft Booker.

You may be right. Drafting even more bigs would seem very weird. And they have to retool the backcourt anyways.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Is standing reach measured with shoes on or off?

Cuz if it's with it on, Winslow's are BS because he has 2'' shoes.

Are they allowed to be on their toes? If so the effect of shoes is less. Regarding Winslow's measurements, I'm sure that if he is in shoes everybody else is too.

 

[kabenac]

Nbadraft.net updated their mock - they still have us drafting Dekker. With our first 2nd-rounder they have us taking Joseph Young (Oregon PG).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If Johnson or Frank doesn't fall to us I think I would try and trade the pick to someone that is in love with Turner, Booker, or Oubre. I would want to get back a pick in the 15-19 range and another first rounder next year. Not sure if someone would do it, but if Milwaukee loves them some Myles Turner I think I'd trade the 12 for the 17 and Milwaukee's first rounder next year (with very limited protections). We can take what is left from the Booker/Lyles/Looney/Portis group. The first rounder can be used midseason or during the summer in a sign and trade to acquire some more immediate help or we can just sit on it.

My first thought would be to move up, but if that isn't possible I think moving down might have some appeal.

 

[Jazz4ever]

If Johnson or Frank doesn't fall to us I think I would try and trade the pick to someone that is in love with Turner, Booker, or Oubre. I would want to get back a pick in the 15-19 range and another first rounder next year. Not sure if someone would do it, but if Milwaukee loves them some Myles Turner I think I'd trade the 12 for the 17 and Milwaukee's first rounder next year (with very limited protections). We can take what is left from the Booker/Lyles/Looney/Portis group. The first rounder can be used midseason or during the summer in a sign and trade to acquire some more immediate help or we can just sit on it.

My first thought would be to move up, but if that isn't possible I think moving down might have some appeal.

Pickings would be pretty slim at 17. Looney, Grant, Anderson, and Portis would probably be there. Next year Milwaukee will improve with Parker back, the 2016 pick would be around 20.