Following potential 2015 draftees

[The Midnight]

Ford's Updated Big Board post the NCAA tournament:

1. Towns
2. Okafor
3. Mudiay
4. Russell
5. Porzingis
6. Winslow
7. WCS
8. Hezonja
9. Turner
10. Looney
11. Johnson
12. Oubre
13. Kaminsky
14. Poeltl

Top 8 seems like they are set in stone now as they are the exact same group when compared to DX, with placings slightly different. 9-14 are also more or less the same as well (Except Looney).

If we're picking around #12 it looks like we'll have to take a flyer on someone with lower floor & potentially higher ceiling (Oubre, Looney, Turner), or safer picks but lower ceilings (Kaminsky, Poeltl). It would be interesting to see which strategy DL turns to this time around.

Some interesting write-ups:

Looney: Kevin Pelton and I broke down Looney's production-versus-potential question. Needless to say, there's a general split among NBA scouts about where he should be drafted. The potential crowd has him in the Nos. 5-to-10 range. The production crowd has him in the Nos. 10-to-20 range. Luckily for Looney, there are more ambitious GMs and scouts in the potential group than the production group, and I think his draft range is currently somewhere between Nos. 7 and 14.

Johnson: Johnson's tournament was solid, just like his season. He clearly has an NBA body, shot the ball better this season than anyone could've hoped, and when he dials in defensively, he looks to be a strong two-way player in the pros. But NBA scouts think Winslow is a better athlete and has an even better motor. They think both Hezonja and Kansas' Kelly Oubre will be better shooters long term. Johnson is stuck somewhere in between: the guy who does just about everything well but lacks that one elite skill. Still, I think there's almost no way he falls out of the lottery. He could go as high as No. 6, but I think the range is more likely Nos. 8 to 14.

Oubre: It will be interesting to see if Oubre can keep his stock in the lottery. Scouts have been crazy high on him (before the season began), rock bottom on him (after a very slow start), high on him again (after he moved into KU's starting lineup) and lukewarm the last month of the season. His length, shooting touch and defensive abilities are all very attractive, however, and you can make the case he has the highest upside of any wing in the draft. But he's going to need some terrific workouts against Winslow and Johnson, and that might be tough given how physical both players are. Oubre's in the 10-to-15 range right now.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Ford's Updated Big Board post the NCAA tournament:

1. Towns
2. Okafor
3. Mudiay
4. Russell
5. Porzingis
6. Winslow
7. WCS
8. Hezonja
9. Turner
10. Looney
11. Johnson
12. Oubre
13. Kaminsky
14. Poeltl

Top 8 seems like they are set in stone now as they are the exact same group when compared to DX, with placings slightly different. 9-14 are also more or less the same as well (Except Looney).

If we're picking around #12 it looks like we'll have to take a flyer on someone with lower floor & potentially higher ceiling (Oubre, Looney, Turner), or safer picks but lower ceilings (Kaminsky, Poeltl). It would be interesting to see which strategy DL turns to this time around.

Some interesting write-ups:

That is pretty interesting. Looney will go in the teens... Ford had him way too high earlier. Surprise she's still kind if lukewarm on Johnson. I'd love if he slipped to us at 11 or 12.

 

[Beer]

Ford's Updated Big Board post the NCAA tournament:

1. Towns
2. Okafor
3. Mudiay
4. Russell
5. Porzingis
6. Winslow
7. WCS
8. Hezonja
9. Turner
10. Looney
11. Johnson
12. Oubre
13. Kaminsky
14. Poeltl

Top 8 seems like they are set in stone now as they are the exact same group when compared to DX, with placings slightly different. 9-14 are also more or less the same as well (Except Looney).

If we're picking around #12 it looks like we'll have to take a flyer on someone with lower floor & potentially higher ceiling (Oubre, Looney, Turner), or safer picks but lower ceilings (Kaminsky, Poeltl). It would be interesting to see which strategy DL turns to this time around.

Some interesting write-ups:

Turner at 9? Pass.

 

[The Midnight]

That is pretty interesting. Looney will go in the teens... Ford had him way too high earlier. Surprise she's still kind if lukewarm on Johnson. I'd love if he slipped to us at 11 or 12.

To Ford's credit he really stuck to his guns on Johnson. Remember when DX had Johnson around #5 and Ford had him around #12 just last month and everyone here was saying Ford had an agenda to push, has no integrity, etc, etc?


Now Ford has Johnson #11 and DX has dropped Johnson down to #9.

 

[8]

Would suck to end up with Poeltl

#100RAPclub

 

[The Midnight]

Turner at 9? Pass.

Ford said GMs and scouts are intrigued by his shooting & shot blocking but really concern about his awkward running and his long term health. His stock will depend on what the team doctors say about his health problems long term when they have him in for workouts.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Ford said GMs and scouts are intrigued by his shooting & shot blocking but really concern about his awkward running and his long term health. His stock will depend on what the team doctors say about his health problems long term when they have him in for workouts.

He's tough to evaluate... was he used wrong or is he not good. He was killing it from 3 earlier in the year and I was intrigued so I watched him. He has a good stroke, but that run is just awful. It sounds weird, but it reminded me a bit of how Oden used to look out on the court... like things just aren't lined up right. I wonder if he has a leg that is longer than another or something. It just doesn't make sense.

I think he is a project but has upside... I'd rather not be the one who drafts him, but I get it if we did.

 

[fishonjazz]

Is the poster named karl malone an alt of babe that he uses strictly for jazz related talk?

 

[spycam1]

My realistic-ish hope right now is for either Johnson or Kaminsky to fall us.

 

[sgjazzfan]

My realistic-ish hope right now is for either Johnson or Kaminsky to fall us.

My realistic hope is that the Jazz somehow end up picking 10th. Puts them in much better position to move up for Hezonja/Winslow or hope Johnson falls. Not really that excited about any of Kaminsky/Turner/Looney/Lyles. I'd rather pick Oubre over them. Maybe this is because I expect Jazz to bring over Tomic. If they can't get Tomic to come over, and they can sign Carrol DMC, then I could get excited about Kaminsky or WCS, but not really the others.

 

[davidbenoit]

My realistic-ish hope right now is for either Johnson or Kaminsky to fall us.

Two very safe picks. The Jazz might feel they are good enough where they don't need to hit a home run in the draft this time around.

Jazz are in such a unique spot developmentally that literally everything is in play.

But the most common theme is the Jazz need shooting to spread the floor for their two star post players. If Jazz stay at 12 I see them going for Oubre, and if they move to 10 I see them trading up a few spots for Hezonja.

 

[spycam1]

My realistic hope is that the Jazz somehow end up picking 10th. Puts them in much better position to move up for Hezonja/Winslow or hope Johnson falls. Not really that excited about any of Kaminsky/Turner/Looney/Lyles. I'd rather pick Oubre over them. Maybe this is because I expect Jazz to bring over Tomic. If they can't get Tomic to come over, and they can sign Carrol DMC, then I could get excited about Kaminsky or WCS, but not really the others.

Two very safe picks. The Jazz might feel they are good enough where they don't need to hit a home run in the draft this time around.

Jazz are in such a unique spot developmentally that literally everything is in play.

But the most common theme is the Jazz need shooting to spread the floor for their two star post players. If Jazz stay at 12 I see them going for Oubre, and if they move to 10 I see them trading up a few spots for Hezonja.

Basically everyone seems to be in agreement on this. It's just a matter of what we would have to give up. If packaging our pick with a future one (like the GS or OKC pick) could land us Mario, we'll be set. If we have to give up more than that, I don't know if DL would pull the trigger.