Following potential 2015 draftees

[The Midnight]

I think Oubre is still likely to be at least as successful as Stanley Johnson, simply because he's prototypical for the wing positions. There aren't many 6'7" or 6'8" 245-lb players in the league having an impact as starters. Basically, you've got Millsap and Draymond Green. Well, and Lebron James.

Motivation has a lot to do with how successful you are in the NBA. If you're not motivated, there are 100's of other players out there hungrier than you, wanting to take your place.


And apparently this is the case with Otto Porter. As this revealing piece of interview by Paul Pierce:

"Otto is another one who just doesn't understand how good he is,'' Pierce said. "He can shoot, he's a slasher, he can defend, I'm just not sure how badly he wants it every day.

"That kid just needs to get mad. If he came to practice ticked off and to the games ticked off, he'd be fine. But it's hard to get Otto mad. I should punch him one day just to get him riled up.''

Oubre seems a lot like Porter on paper. Long reach for the position. Nice stroke. Good to great shooter. But without motivation, he's not going anywhere fast. May be he is yet to reach his potential, who knows? But as it stands he needs to pick it up.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Meh, Otto Porter and Kelly Oubre are pretty different players. Oubre has plenty of hunger. He's just inconsistent. He'll be fine.

 

[The Midnight]

Meh, Otto Porter and Kelly Oubre are pretty different players. Oubre has plenty of hunger. He's just inconsistent. He'll be fine.

The thing about hunger though is it's not that easy to determine right off the bat. Sometimes it's apparent, sometimes it's not. It's elusive.

 

[spycam1]

Night, all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KxtMk59NVg

 

[Maneesh]

Except when you're bitching about the FO, then you're just saying stupid crap.
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I'm not very nice.

You can neg rep me everyday like you do. In the end you are just a sadistic person who has not found any happiness other than attack others. How you get to so much rep with your nonsense is beyond comprehension. Does anyone think this guy has smart thoughts or is just a smart *** for his rep? I think he is not so smart. Bully guy attacks those with 2 rep, but kisses butt to those with more. Straight bully.

 

[freakazoid]

You can neg rep me everyday like you do. In the end you are just a sadistic person who has not found any happiness other than attack others. How you get to so much rep with your nonsense is beyond comprehension. Does anyone think this guy has smart thoughts or is just a smart *** for his rep? I think he is not so smart. Bully guy attacks those with 2 rep, but kisses butt to those with more. Straight bully.

Name one poster I kiss up to. Also, I have negged you a grand total of one time, and I can post my history if need be to prove you're lying. Unless of course, you're an alt of somebody else, in which case I'll be happy to apologize, if you just tell me who I'm apologizing to. Something tells me if you weren't whining about me, you'd probably be the guy who is periodically making posts like this to complain about the unfair treatment you receive from the mods.

 

[idiot]

Has anybody else been following Tony Jones's twitter? He's been having convos about what the Jazz will/should do in the offseason. As with a lot of twitter conversations, it's not always clear how strongly he holds the position, nor whether what he is saying comes primarily from his sources with the Jazz or his own opinion. Nevertheless he's been throwing out a lot of hints in which he seems to imply some knowledge about the Jazz's current thinking (who knows if he's right or not):

Jazz won't go for an upgrade or even 1-2 yr stopgap at PG -- Exum is the guy (he's very clear this is the Jazz's thinking)

Jazz would be hard pressed to get an upgrade at a wing -- they love Hood (it's not quite clear if this is all Jazz's thoughts, or partly his thoughts)

Jazz love two guys in draft: Hezonja and Porzingis -- but they've long since understood that they'll be gone far before the Jazz pick (seems pretty clear this info comes from Jazz)

Jazz are likely to go BPA route, maybe erring on the side of high upside who needs development time, since virtually anyone they bring in will not find many regular rotation minutes (TJ didn't bat away Oubre and Looney when their names were brought up)

Also emphasized that Jazz likely to address shooting in offseason (though that's probably not news to anybody)

TJ did bat away Dekker's name -- says many players higher on Jazz's list

Was doubtful that Stanley Johnson could even find a spot in the rotation ahead of Ingles next year if Ingles is back (sounded more like TJ's opinion, but I'm not sure)

Brought up Trey Lyles and Devin Booker as guys the Jazz like.

Jazz care very, very little about where they finish in the lottery. Culture development far more important than moving up a slot or two.

 

[The Midnight]

^^^

- Got the same feeling listening to DL that he likes Hood a lot. He said numerous times Hood will be with the Jazz for a long time.

- Dekker without shooting is pretty ****, so yeah not surprised he's not on our list.

- PG situation: 1) No team is willing to give up their star PG. 2) We don't have enough asset to move up to get Russell or Mudiay. 3) We are a team that's happy to develop young talents. 4) Exum is coachable, no attitude issues, a Jazz type player. 5) Defensively he is already THERE. All signs point towards us keeping Exum long term.

- Re development vs lottery position: DL took Hayward & Favors out I think largely to develop young players & bench primarily. Difference between #10 and #12 isn't that great in this draft.

 

[stitches]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnfpmCpa3PA

 

[spycam1]

Has anybody else been following Tony Jones's twitter? He's been having convos about what the Jazz will/should do in the offseason. As with a lot of twitter conversations, it's not always clear how strongly he holds the position, nor whether what he is saying comes primarily from his sources with the Jazz or his own opinion. Nevertheless he's been throwing out a lot of hints in which he seems to imply some knowledge about the Jazz's current thinking (who knows if he's right or not):

Jazz won't go for an upgrade or even 1-2 yr stopgap at PG -- Exum is the guy (he's very clear this is the Jazz's thinking)

Jazz would be hard pressed to get an upgrade at a wing -- they love Hood (it's not quite clear if this is all Jazz's thoughts, or partly his thoughts)

Jazz love two guys in draft: Hezonja and Porzingis -- but they've long since understood that they'll be gone far before the Jazz pick (seems pretty clear this info comes from Jazz)

Jazz are likely to go BPA route, maybe erring on the side of high upside who needs development time, since virtually anyone they bring in will not find many regular rotation minutes (TJ didn't bat away Oubre and Looney when their names were brought up)

Also emphasized that Jazz likely to address shooting in offseason (though that's probably not news to anybody)

TJ did bat away Dekker's name -- says many players higher on Jazz's list

Was doubtful that Stanley Johnson could even find a spot in the rotation ahead of Ingles next year if Ingles is back (sounded more like TJ's opinion, but I'm not sure)

Brought up Trey Lyles and Devin Booker as guys the Jazz like.

Jazz care very, very little about where they finish in the lottery. Culture development far more important than moving up a slot or two.

The Jazz and I see pretty eye to eye on just about everything.

I've always said that Exum is the guy at PG and we shouldn't stunt his development by moving him back to the bench. We threw him into the fire, why would we suddenly take him out again? The physical gifts and BBIQ are there, and he's got the right coach to develop his gifts. He's going to be very good.

Hood also looks like a long term starter in the back court, but I'm glad the Jazz are as high on Mario as the majority of us here.

Just draft BPA. Get shooting and upside.

 

[spycam1]

PKJones, who would you pick between Lyles and Booker?

 

[NCJazz]

Has anybody else been following Tony Jones's twitter? He's been having convos about what the Jazz will/should do in the offseason. As with a lot of twitter conversations, it's not always clear how strongly he holds the position, nor whether what he is saying comes primarily from his sources with the Jazz or his own opinion. Nevertheless he's been throwing out a lot of hints in which he seems to imply some knowledge about the Jazz's current thinking (who knows if he's right or not):

Jazz won't go for an upgrade or even 1-2 yr stopgap at PG -- Exum is the guy (he's very clear this is the Jazz's thinking)

Jazz would be hard pressed to get an upgrade at a wing -- they love Hood (it's not quite clear if this is all Jazz's thoughts, or partly his thoughts)

Jazz love two guys in draft: Hezonja and Porzingis -- but they've long since understood that they'll be gone far before the Jazz pick (seems pretty clear this info comes from Jazz)

Jazz are likely to go BPA route, maybe erring on the side of high upside who needs development time, since virtually anyone they bring in will not find many regular rotation minutes (TJ didn't bat away Oubre and Looney when their names were brought up)

Also emphasized that Jazz likely to address shooting in offseason (though that's probably not news to anybody)

TJ did bat away Dekker's name -- says many players higher on Jazz's list

Was doubtful that Stanley Johnson could even find a spot in the rotation ahead of Ingles next year if Ingles is back (sounded more like TJ's opinion, but I'm not sure)

Brought up Trey Lyles and Devin Booker as guys the Jazz like.

Jazz care very, very little about where they finish in the lottery. Culture development far more important than moving up a slot or two.

Certainly think that backup C is an area of need for the Jazz and then combined with shooting who could that possibly be?