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Catchall said:
Really? I don't. Don't think he's that kind of athlete.
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Leonard is a good overall athlete, but he isn't that explosive vertically. He tested with a 25.5" no step vertical, and a 32" max vertical. His crazy length makes his leaping ability seem better than it is because his arms get so far above the rim. Looney is the same way (they both have 7'3 wingspans).

They both have good lateral agility and can guard both forward positions to a degree.

Both good rebounders.

Both are more unselfish, reserved players.

You could say Looney is more of a PF, and that's probably true to an extent (partially because he's nearly 6'10), but I bet Leonard posted up more at SDSU than Looney did for UCLA (only 9.3% of Looney's offense came off of post up situations). And Looney's jumper is way better than Leonard's was in college (Looney averaged 42% from 3; Leonard only 25% in his two years of college).

If Looney's game translates, I think it'll be in a similar fashion to how Leonard impacts the game. Hard nosed, smart defense; spot up 3s; driving when the defense overplays him; making the right pass; posting up occasionally; etc. Whether he can come up big in pressure situations like Lenoard is the real question and the thing that is most often failed to be mentioned when comparing any player to Kawhi.
 
spycam1 said:
Leonard is a good overall athlete, but he isn't that explosive vertically. He tested with a 25.5" no step vertical, and a 32" max vertical. His crazy length makes his leaping ability seem better than it is because his arms get so far above the rim. Looney is the same way (they both have 7'3 wingspans).

They both have good lateral agility and can guard both forward positions to a degree.

Both good rebounders.

Both are more unselfish, reserved players.

You could say Looney is more of a PF, and that's probably true to an extent (partially because he's nearly 6'10), but I bet Leonard posted up more at SDSU than Looney did for UCLA (only 9.3% of Looney's offense came off of post up situations). And Looney's jumper is way better than Leonard's was in college (Looney averaged 42% from 3; Leonard only 25% in his two years of college).

If Looney's game translates, I think it'll be in a similar fashion to how Leonard impacts the game. Hard nosed, smart defense; spot up 3s; driving when the defense overplays him; making the right pass; posting up occasionally; etc. Whether he can come up big in pressure situations like Lenoard is the real question and the thing that is most often failed to be mentioned when comparing any player to Kawhi.
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Great post now I am looney
 
spycam1 said:
Leonard is a good overall athlete, but he isn't that explosive vertically. He tested with a 25.5" no step vertical, and a 32" max vertical. His crazy length makes his leaping ability seem better than it is because his arms get so far above the rim. Looney is the same way (they both have 7'3 wingspans).

They both have good lateral agility and can guard both forward positions to a degree.

Both good rebounders.

Both are more unselfish, reserved players.

You could say Looney is more of a PF, and that's probably true to an extent (partially because he's nearly 6'10), but I bet Leonard posted up more at SDSU than Looney did for UCLA (only 9.3% of Looney's offense came off of post up situations). And Looney's jumper is way better than Leonard's was in college (Looney averaged 42% from 3; Leonard only 25% in his two years of college).

If Looney's game translates, I think it'll be in a similar fashion to how Leonard impacts the game. Hard nosed, smart defense; spot up 3s; driving when the defense overplays him; making the right pass; posting up occasionally; etc. Whether he can come up big in pressure situations like Lenoard is the real question and the thing that is most often failed to be mentioned when comparing any player to Kawhi.
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My biggest concern comparing him at all to someone like Kawhi is body type. Looney would need to get substantially heavier while retaining his quickness to have the same kind of strength and subsequently defensive impact that Kawhi does.
 
mhindy said:
My biggest concern comparing him at all to someone like Kawhi is body type. Looney would need to get substantially heavier while retaining his quickness to have the same kind of strength and subsequently defensive impact that Kawhi does.
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Yah, that's a big difference - Kawhi measured 227 at 6'7'', Looney is supposed to be 220 at 6'10''. That's a pretty big difference.

But other than that, good post spycam1.
 
Interesting stat:
Looney's blocks/40: 1.1
Turner's blocks/40: 4.7

Looney and Turner have the same standing reach, wingspan, and probably vertical.
Clearly Turner has some "it" factor here or Looney. Whether it be timing, IQ, motor...
 
mhindy said:
My biggest concern comparing him at all to someone like Kawhi is body type. Looney would need to get substantially heavier while retaining his quickness to have the same kind of strength and subsequently defensive impact that Kawhi does.
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I don't think he'll have trouble putting on weight (good frame), but retaining his speed is obviously key, like you said.
 
spycam1 said:
I don't think he'll have trouble putting on weight (good frame), but retaining his speed is obviously key, like you said.
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Quincy Miller who I considered to have a similar wafer thin frame coming out of college hasn't put on much weight neither though... he's been in and out of the league ever since?


If the Jazz believes he could put on weight though then I think Looney is very intriguing.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Interesting stat:
Looney's blocks/40: 1.1
Turner's blocks/40: 4.7

Looney and Turner have the same standing reach, wingspan, and probably vertical.
Clearly Turner has some "it" factor here or Looney. Whether it be timing, IQ, motor...
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No, Looney played in a zone defense where he played a lot at the top of the key.

Turner played down low way more.
 
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