Following potential 2015 draftees

[bigmike]

I think this team needs shooting more than it needs defense.

I personally have zeroed in on Kaminsky, Trey Lyles, or Myles Turner if we stay at 12. I really don't think Trey will be there. Between the two, I probably would prefer Turner - I think he'll be a better player long-term. Frank probably helps us more in year one, though.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I mean, he has the physical strength to do it. I'm not saying he can't play spot 4 minutes, he might be able to, and do a very good job, but it will require him to be a very intense and physical defender. I mean, Draymond Green really gives Randolph and Gasol trouble in post-ups. He is 4'' shorter in standing reach though, which is a pretty big difference.

I think most scouts, gms, and fans thought he was much bigger though, I know I did.

The difference between Dray and Johnson is 3 inches in standing reach, but I do catch your drift it is significant. He does compare favorably to Jae Crowder though who plays the stretch 4 in spots. I think he will be able to play stretch 4 most nights but against post up bigs he might struggle. He will have more offense than Draymond imo and still may grow a bit... most men finishing growing by 20 years old and Stanley is almost 19.

At very worst I think Stanley will be a rich man's Jae Crowder... I'd take that at 12.

I also think there are potential discrepancies in this test. D' Angelo Russell is 1.5 inches shorter than Stanley and his wingspan 1.75 inches shorter than Stanley's yet they have the same standing reach. Can someone explain how this happens? Does it have to do with flexibility or something weird. The other weird one was Devin Booker and Kelly Oubre... both have the same standing reach yet Oubre is an inch taller and has a wingspan that is 6 inches longer... I'd want to retest those two if I brought them in.

 

[RandyForRubio]

They go for the interviews.

I don't think a GM has ever been like "Hey, who should we draft Player A or Player B" and someone said "Player A cuz his wingspan is 1'' longer and his max vert is 3'' bigger".

KAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHNNNNNNNN!!

 

[NAOS]

KAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHNNNNNNNN!!

How much do you like Duke?

 

[RandyForRubio]

How much do you like Duke?

I think he'll be a great RB, but it sucks he got drafted to the Browns.

 

[karl malone]

Walt perrin said the jazz have tiered the draft to four players in the first tier, five in the second, and seven in the third. Who do you think they are? I think RHJ and Booker are in there.

Tier 1:
Towns
Okafor
Russell
Mudiay

Tier 2:
Hezonja
Winslow
Johnson
Porzingis
WCS

Tier 3:
Oubre
Turner
Kaminsky
Looney
Portis
Booker
Dekker

 

[Jazz4ever]

The difference between Dray and Johnson is 3 inches in standing reach, but I do catch your drift it is significant. He does compare favorably to Jae Crowder though who plays the stretch 4 in spots. I think he will be able to play stretch 4 most nights but against post up bigs he might struggle. He will have more offense than Draymond imo and still may grow a bit... most men finishing growing by 20 years old and Stanley is almost 19.

At very worst I think Stanley will be a rich man's Jae Crowder... I'd take that at 12.

I also think there are potential discrepancies in this test. D' Angelo Russell is 1.5 inches shorter than Stanley and his wingspan 1.75 inches shorter than Stanley's yet they have the same standing reach. Can someone explain how this happens? Does it have to do with flexibility or something weird. The other weird one was Devin Booker and Kelly Oubre... both have the same standing reach yet Oubre is an inch taller and has a wingspan that is 6 inches longer... I'd want to retest those two if I brought them in.

I doubt there would be discrepancies at the combine, watching it on TV they take it serious and it's a very clinical affair. Wingspan is more than just your arms, it includes your whole chest. Oubre's actual arms might only be 1 inch longer than Booker's per side, and that number can be easily explained by higher sitting shoulders.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I want shooting.

Devin Booker.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I doubt there would be discrepancies at the combine, watching it on TV they take it serious and it's a very clinical affair. Wingspan is more than just your arms, it includes your whole chest. Oubre's actual arms might only be 1 inch longer than Booker's per side, and that number can be easily explained by higher sitting shoulders.

Just seems like an awful lot of ground to make up in the height department. Back to the original issue... I am not really concerned about Johnson's ability to guard many 4s. I would pay more attention to wingspan than standing reach as I don't think him or Dray are really rim protector types per se. I think he has the girth to handle guys in the post and wingspan to make guys uncomfortable. I like Stanley though so I'm pretty much just going to look at the data and see what I want.

 

[Doublea]

I interested on how other players that didn't finish well at the rim did in the NBA (like johnson). Is there an easy way to figure that out.

 

[Elizah Huge]

No love for R.J. Hunter? 19-25 from NBA three at the combine. Went to Georgia St., feels like the next great player who started as an unknown.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Great player? Exactly what is your definition for great?