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Catchall said:
Myles Turner is looking good...

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His running seems massively improved. There was a great article on DX about the science of running and they used him as an example. I've kind of fallen in love with him as a prospect with time, after being really low on him for most of the year. Would absolutely love it if we can draft him.
 
Jazz4ever said:
And he was wrong about Frank sucking his first two years, Frank was good in limited minutes his sophomore year (25.8 PER)
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Why didn't Frank play more minutes? Why were his minutes limited?

I think that's the point Locke is making. Frank wasn't playing at such a level that he was forced to play heavy minutes as a freshman or sophomore in college. Then in his junior year he started getting heavy minutes. At that point he had 2 years learning the system and he was one of the older players in the conference.

I'm not saying Locke is right but when your come back is that his PER was good in limited minutes you sound completely defeated IMO.
 
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orangello said:
Why didn't Frank play more minutes? Why we're his minutes limited?

I think that's the point Locke is making. Frank wasn't playing at such a level that he was forced to play heavy minutes as a freshman or sophomore in college. Then in his junior year he started getting heavy minutes. At that point he had 2 years learning the system and he was one of the older players in the conference.

I'm not saying Locke is right but when your come back is that his PER was good in limited minutes you sound completely defeated IMO.
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Would think too that Frank should have been dominating everyone with his age difference.
 
Doublea said:
Would think too that Frank should have been dominating everyone with his age difference.
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Exactly. Look at Dekker. He played major minutes and he was a big contributor last year and then built on it this year. Between the two I'd rather have Dekker (although I have a list of 4 it 5 other prospects that I'd rather have ahead of both of them).
 
This theory that Locke talks about is some of my reasoning for wanting Schoeder instead of Trey (I like Giannis but I had Dennis ahead because we needed a PG, that was dumb of me, trying to push need instead of BPA).

Dennis had elite speed and length for the PG position. I'd rather start with that and work on the other things.
 
I like Turner now. I think he could be Jermaine O'Neal with a steady 20-ft. jumper. Potential All Star. He's just getting used to his body. If we get him, other teams are going to be right pissed off.
 
Catchall said:
I like Turner now. I think he could be Jermaine O'Neal with a steady 20-ft. jumper. Potential All Star. He's just getting used to his body. If we get him, other teams are going to be right pissed off.
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Johnson & Turner are my two favorites in our range. Not sure if either will last until 12 - I think either could go anywhere between 8-11 but not earlier so I'm pulling for one of them!
 
Catchall said:
Nutshell on the Locke podcast:

- Dennis Lindsey apparently said (paraphrase) that the 4-year senior who didn't dominate when he was 18, 19 or 20 is riskier than the 19 year-old elite athlete you don't know much about. Didn't mention Kaminsky by name, specifically.

- Locke points to other examples: Wesley Johnson, Ekpe Udoh, Jimmer Fredette

- Locke says that DL has two of the biggest draft home runs of the past 5 years: Rudy Gobert and Kawhi Leonard. He says the common denominator is elite measurables, athleticism, inner desire to be great and raw/underdeveloped skills. DL sees the Jazz having an advantage in player development. DL's worst pick so far is Trey Burke--college POTY with developed skills, but lacking measurables and athleticism.

This leads me to believe the Jazz will draft someone young, athletic, long and raw, but with strong desire---e.g., Turner, Oubre, Looney, maybe Portis.

David Locke thinks Hollis-Jefferson might also fit the profile.
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Locke discounted Oubre in his podcast. Also to fit the mould you need the desire to be GREAT.
 
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