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Following potential 2015 draftees

dytide said:
I'm starting to think that Justin Anderson wouldn't be a reach at #12
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Even if he's good enough to be selected there he won't be picked until roughly ten picks later... If you love him you trade down and collect assets in your way down.
 
Man did u guys read that Zach Lowe article? Soo good. Its about the post up game and the transition to the playmaking 4. Whos the best passing big man in this draft? Gimme that guy!
 
Carbon13 said:
Man did u guys read that Zach Lowe article? Soo good. Its about the post up game and the transition to the playmaking 4. Whos the best passing big man in this draft? Gimme that guy!
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I just came here to post this tidbit that I think very much pertains to who the Jazz should look at drafting:

"Going small-against-big risks murder on the glass, but there are ways to minimize that risk, and coaches are getting aggressive at turning an enemy’s lack of post-up skill into more of a liability. The adaptation has been cruelest for stretch power forwards who can’t really do anything but shoot. Coaches have basically played the Matt Bonner/Steve Novak/Mike Scott types off the floor by going small and sticking speedier wings on them — guys who can close fast on 3-pointers and dribble by them on the other end.

“If you’re a stretch 4*today, you’d better have a lightning-quick release,” says Daryl Morey, the Rockets GM.

Guys like Ryan Anderson, Ersan Ilyasova, and Channing Frye are more multidimensional, but they aren’t as lethal as they were two or three years ago, and they can only thrive in specific environments. If they had better post games, they could beat up smaller defenders and force opponents into uncomfortable readjustments. But they can’t — at least not consistently.

A few executives have dumped the term “stretch 4” altogether and replaced it with “playmaking 4” — a term I’m officially stealing right now. Shooting is nice, but it’s not enough anymore as defenses get smarter, faster, and more flexible working within the loosened rules. Spot-up guys have to be able to catch the ball, pump-fake a defender rushing out at them, drive into the lane, and make some sort of play. If they can’t manage that, a possession dies with them.

“In a playoff series, you can figure out shooting,” Karl says. “You just cover Kyle Korver. All that cute stuff they ran for him all year long — they only get that once in a while now. The shooters who have playmaking ability — those are the guys that are really kicking ***.”"

https://grantland.com/the-triangle/...he-nba-post-up-game-to-bring-you-its-rebirth/
 
Carbon13 said:
Man did u guys read that Zach Lowe article? Soo good. Its about the post up game and the transition to the playmaking 4. Whos the best passing big man in this draft? Gimme that guy!
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Kaminsky is a stretch 4 that can abuse ppl in the post, pass well, and even dribble the ball up the floor. AKA he is about as much of a playmaking-4 as they come in this draft. Maybe Kevin Looney? Still, no big had the assist numbers that Frank had.

Whoever snags him will be happy. Want him on the Jazz even more after reading that article.
 
What annoys me about that article as it highlights (again) how ****ing awesome it would have been to have Tomic on this team. Oh well. I suppose Tomic doesn't have the range that Frank does. Tomic would give defenses FITS with his post-play and passing prowess.
 
After reading this I expect to see Hayward try posting up more and Rudy/Derrick take their passing to another level.

That will be a big step in improving the offense next year.
 
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It seems like the 4 is going to be the lynch pin going forward. Need to shoot, dribble, pass. Have to take advantage of guard and wing switches. Must be able to go to the post, come out to the high post and face up, be smart and pass. I think millsap, dray, and diaw are all very mobile and almost guards really. Theyre soo good and seemed to be undervalued. Looney is sort of that but not quite. Too bad we let paul go! We would have beasted next year.
 
So for all the Frank haters how do you feel after reading that Lowe piece? Shooting? yup! Passing? yup! Driving? yup! Post up smaller dudes? yup!

I do think this makes a good case for the idea of the player that Looney could be as well.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
So for all the Frank haters how do you feel after reading that Lowe piece? Shooting? yup! Passing? yup! Driving? yup! Post up smaller dudes? yup!

I do think this makes a good case for the idea of the player that Looney could be as well.
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No to Frank. He doesnt fit the physical profile or athleticism of the guys Lowe mentioned. He is not Captain Trillsap, Dray, or Diaw. He has more in common with Channing frye and Ryan anderson than the guys Lowe mentioned. I just dont see him getting into the teeth of the d, causing a defensive switching imbalance and making plays.
 
But what do i know? Thing is i think frank will find a place in this league and he will be a very solid player. Can definitely see why people like him.
 
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