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Following potential 2015 draftees

stitches said:
His release is extremely low on those spot up 3s.
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I have faith that Quin and company can get him to improve his mechanics to improve little things like that AND that Johnson has the work ethic to really improve after that occurs. IMO, he's the guy who will fall further than he should, but the Jazz would have to still trade up to get him. I'm a huge fan of his and can see him coming into the NBA and developing into a player similar to Jimmy Butler. Since I think Hezonja and Porzingis will ultimately end up out of reach, Stanley Johnson is the guy I really want the Jazz to get.

Gobert, Favors/Booker, Hayward/Ingles, Hood/Johnson, Exum/Burks. Short of adding a legitimate 5 to back up Gobert, (or adding a veteran PG and keeping Burks more at wing) that's a pretty darned good 9 man rotation in my book. Plus, they still have millions in cap space and a boatload of assets to go after a big fish in the future if a star doesn't develop from that group.
 
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The release is quick enough, I think. And his defender will probably have to give him an extra couple of inches just in case Stanley puts his body on him while attacking a close out.

SJ solidly at the top of my draft wish list.
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Yah, from the ones we can reasonably expect to fall to us, I think I'd pick him too.
 
I was looking around at the APBRmetrics forum (the group that organized/wrote up) the analytic models composite rankings Cy mentioned in DX. One of the posters added a few more analytic models to the mix (so there's 8 analytical models altogether): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MXUrl25RpU-ew0cLmU2_K0mF91i0wKu0TYIHxuZbKJ4/edit#gid=0

Top 20 (college only) are (unless otherwise indicated the difference in composite scores from one prospect to the next prospect down is small):
1 Russell
2 Towns
(moderate break)
3 Okafor
(very large break)
4 Jones
5 Johnson
6 Winslow
7 Turner
8 Looney
9 Kaminsky
(large break)
10 Wright
(large break)
11 Oubre
12 Wood
13 Portis
14 Payne
(large break)
15 WSC
(moderate break)
16 Grant
17 Dekker
18 Hunter
(moderate break)
19 RHJ
20 McCullough

Among players who the composite of the analytical models likes considerably more than DX (top 100, not mock draft):
Jones (+10)
Looney (+12)
Wood (+13)
Wright (+18)

Among players who the composite of the analytical models like considerably less than DX (not hard to see a theme):
Booker (-12)
WCS (-9)
(Lyles would have made this list except DX already has him lower than most other sites).
 
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Rashad Vaughn is a major sleeper pick. Kid could be special. I really like Qualls in the second round and RHJ is intriguing, though not sure I'd want him at 12 depending on who else is there.
 
Since Pelton is the analytics guy Locke trusts most, it seems, it will be interesting to hear the discussion between those two (if there's) ever a podcast, on why Kaminsky is Pelton's model's 5th ranked prospect.

(And for that matter, I'd like to hear them discuss what we should think about an analytics model -- Pelton's -- that ranks Alan Williams and Marc Garcia as better prospects than Jahlil Okafor).
 
Im just jumping in here to say I'm glad KOC didn't draft cole aldrich
 
idiot said:
Since Pelton is the analytics guy Locke trusts most, it seems, it will be interesting to hear the discussion between those two (if there's) ever a podcast, on why Kaminsky is Pelton's model's 5th ranked prospect.

(And for that matter, I'd like to hear them discuss what we should think about an analytics model -- Pelton's -- that ranks Alan Williams and Marc Garcia as better prospects than Jahlil Okafor).
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Locke has already made his mind based on Kaminsky's age and now has started doubling down with a ton of things he doesn't like about him without even having watched him much. For example, the craziest one I heard from him is that Kaminsky is a ball stopper and doesn't share the ball and needs to hold the ball in his hands for a while before he decides what to do. I was like WTF when I heard it. Kaminsky is one of the best big passers in college basketball and if there's something I've noticed it's the complete opposite - that he makes good quick decisions and his feel for the game is extremely good for a big.

I would take what Locke says about prospects with a grain of salt, especially when he admits he hasn't seen much of them and has started pushing talking points about them even before he's seen a single minute of them(he started crapping on Kaminsky based on his age, before he even started doing 'scouting' for the videos he's doing).

Now don't get me wrong, for me his age is a concern(and not the age specifically, but rather the chance that he's towards the upper part of his development curve), but piling on with BS only to support your pre-conceived notions is never a good thing.
 
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Here's an article by Givony about the best shooters in the draft:
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/ranking-the-2015-nba-draft-s-top-shooters-012046574.html
Overall shooting rankings

1. Mario Hezonja
2. D'Angelo Russell
3. Frank Kaminsky
4. Corey Hawkins
5. Tyler Harvey
6. Pat Connaughton
7. Kristaps Porzingis
8. Devin Booker
9. Daniel Diez
10. Joseph Young
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Has anybody watched Corey Hawkins from UC Davis? He's shot 49% from 3 on 7.4 attempts per 40mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO8nQ72elOQ
 
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Looking through the drafts in the last 10 years or so there are so many busts in the lottery... It's crazy how all these players seem good, but you just never know.
 
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