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If I told you that those are two freshman prospects one of them the almost consensus no. 1 pick and the other one is considered one of the raw prospects of the draft and could very possibly be available at 12, would that rise your interest in the second one?

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I'd be interested if he didn't run like a spaz. You're welcome NAOS.
 
You can do both, no? Players have left contenders before.
True.
Principal remains the same though. You draft the guy to help the team get better regardless of what Hayward may or may not do in a few years from now.


Hayward should not have that much to do with who we draft.
 
Let me again state that acquiring a wing and getting rid of the traditional backup PG (Trey) is something I'd like to do, regardless of this insurance idea.
 
Did you see the new videos of him running after the running coaching he received? It's MUCH better now. He actually runs like a human now...

Do you know if that has affected his lateral quickness? Turner indeed has a lot of upside, but I'm always wary of the idea of a skill just materializing before anyone has seen it in a game, let alone banking on it.
 
I'd be interested if he didn't run like a spaz. You're welcome NAOS.

Handlogten's 2 for 2. I was flummoxed 'til he tipped me off again. This guy's good.


Re Stitches post: I was comparing the two players too and wondering why Turner was falling so much lower. Seemed like a no brainer Jazz should jump at drafting him if he fell to 12.
 
Handlogten's 2 for 2. I was flummoxed 'til he tipped me off again. This guy's good.


Re Stitches post: I was comparing the two players too and wondering why Turner was falling so much lower. Seemed like a no brainer Jazz should jump at drafting him if he fell to 12.

Prospect stuff (body, eye test, situational statistics).
 
Was Turner's running THAT bad? I remember the first time I watched him I expected his running form to be much worse than it was because of posts in this thread.
 
Was Turner's running THAT bad? I remember the first time I watched him I expected his running form to be much worse than it was because of posts in this thread.

Lol when I watched him I didn't even notice. I also didn't know at the time that he had a running problem so I wasn't looking for it.
 
Do you know if that has affected his lateral quickness? Turner indeed has a lot of upside, but I'm always wary of the idea of a skill just materializing before anyone has seen it in a game, let alone banking on it.

I have no idea, if we get him in for a workout the coaching staff should be able to assess his mobility. I think he has great instincts in defense and with his length it allows him to recover in a lot of situations even when not being extremely quick laterally. The bigger problem will be defending in space and pnr D, but in general I'm really high on him.

Handlogten's 2 for 2. I was flummoxed 'til he tipped me off again. This guy's good.

Re Stitches post: I was comparing the two players too and wondering why Turner was falling so much lower. Seemed like a no brainer Jazz should jump at drafting him if he fell to 12.

Some of the concerns about him:
1. His running gait was extremely weird/choppy/slow + there were medical concerns about his long-term health because of it
2. Questions about his toughness and strength(the strength part is one of the easiest to fix in the league, he has great frame, shouldn't be a problem to build his body the right way)
3. Very rudimentary low-post game
4. Ability to defend in space
5. Much better stats against <.500 teams(This one to me is the weakest argument against him, simply because there has never been conclusive evidence that this split in college means much for the prospects of a player as a pro)

On the positive side, besides the basketball attributes and skills he has, he seems to be a top-notch human being with a great family influence. I am saying that only because the Jazz usually emphasize that part a lot in their selection process.
 
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