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Following potential 2015 draftees

Crocodile Dante said:
I am on the Myles turner bandwagon. I was pimping him earleir in the year. who else is aboard?
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I'm a relatively recent passenger on the wagon. I was cringing when I was watching him run during the season and I thought this would be a huge disadvantage for whoever drafts him. Then I started hearing the rumors that he's working with running coaches and he's improved considerably his gait. Then I saw him run in a video and I was like "Wow! He actually looks like a human running now, not like a duckling stumbling down the court." I like him. If he's available at 12, I'd love us to draft him.
 
Turner is such a great kid, I honestly just want to see him to succeed with any team.

I'm still a Portis guy , but I would be fine with Dekker
 
stitches said:
I'm a relatively recent passenger on the wagon. I was cringing when I was watching him run during the season and I thought this would be a huge disadvantage for whoever drafts him. Then I started hearing the rumors that he's working with running coaches and he's improved considerably his gait. Then I saw him run in a video and I was like "Wow! He actually looks like a human running now, not like a duckling stumbling down the court." I like him. If he's available at 12, I'd love us to draft him.
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actually I was a sprinter in college. I ran the 400 and the 200. turners problem is the running problem both my son have in that he doesn't lift his knees and it forces his feet into the ground. it is almost liking fighting yourself while moving forward. it is completely fixable. I have watched 3 to 4 hours of him today and it is getting better but he still needs work.
 
one thing I like to watch in work out videos is how the players attack the drill. if the walk from place to place they are most likely going to coast in games too. if the are constantly running they will probably run during games. how you perform in practice is a direct correlation to how you perform on the court.
 
mhindy said:
I think expecting Looney to become dramatically more explosive probably isn't going to happen. I love seeing that he can shoot, handle, and PASS though. If he can do that plus play defense I would think he has a good shot at being something in the ballpark of a poorish man's Diaw, which would still be a great player.
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Yeah, explosion may be a stretch, but increased strength would be a big help. Unlike AK, I think there's more hope that he can develop the strength, but his body type still makes it somewhat of a question mark. But he'd have an advantage over almost all of the other comparisons we've been making (except AK perhaps) with his top-notch length.

So I'd say there's three major questions regarding Looney: things many think he should be able to develop, but until he does, there's still some risk:
1) strength (without losing agility)
2) shooting (is he closer to what he showed in 3-pointers, or in FT-shooting?)
3) a role (right now, he seems to have little sense of what he wants to do offensively and how to best accomplish it)
 
BENTLEY said:
https://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/29/nba-draft-karl-anthony-towns-jahlil-okafor-frank-kaminsky-delon-wright

Interesting stuff on Frank almost half way down the webpage.
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Thanks for this. I'm posting the Frank stuff for those who were too lazy to click.

5. Finding an NBA comparison for Frank Kaminsky isn't easy. Wisconsin 7-footer Frank Kaminsky doesn't need to convince anyone he can shoot. There's ample evidence of the winner of the Naismith and Wooden awards hitting threes, so much so that the NBA player he's been most frequently compared with in the lead-up to the draft is Magic stretch-four Channing Frye. Being compared to Frye isn’t insulting, as he's one of the best long-range bigs in the league, but it short-changes Kaminsky's offense. When evaluating "Frank The Tank" as a prospect it's important to remember that he was super-effective from beyond the arc and in the paint, and in the latter portion of his senior season, he was dominating with off-the-dribble basket attacks and interior moves far more than he was with long-range shots.
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The Kaminsky-Frye comparison doesn't hold up when you place their '14-15 shot charts (via ShotAnalytics.com) side-by-side, because one is that of a multi-dimensional scorer, the other is one-note. Kaminsky's formula of paint points + top-of-arc/wing threes + midrange avoidance gives him a shot chart that looks more like a rich man's Kelly Olynyk or Draymond Green than it does a facsimile of Frye.
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6. Feel free to call Kaminsky the most efficient shooting and posting big man in the draft. His 1.051 PPP on post-ups this season was the best of any potential draftee with at least 100 post-up possessions in Synergy Sports Technology's database—and well ahead of Okafor and Towns:


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I still regard Okafor as this draft's best long-range prospect in the post. What he accomplished at his age and at that volume—posting up 8.4 times per game compared to Kaminsky's 4.7, with reasonable efficiency—leads me to believe that Jah will be a low-block monster in the NBA. But that's not the point of this chart. The point is to offer further proof that Kaminsky's value goes well beyond shooting. And the point of the next chart is to show that his value also extends into …
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7. ... the most under-appreciated part of Kaminsky's game: Playmaking. As Grantland's Zach Lowe wrote this week, defensive evolutions in the NBA are making "playmaking fours"—guys who can spot-up shoot but also make things happen off the bounce—more in-demand. Which bodes well for Frank, because it's exactly what he did this season at Wisconsin.
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Among the power forwards and centers likely to be drafted in 2015, Kaminsky had the most assists per 40 minutes, pace-adjusted, and he was the only big man with a positive Pure Point Rating—a John Hollinger-developed stat that assesses playmaking with this formula: 100 x (National Pace/Team Pace) x ([(Assists x 2/3)-Turnovers] / Minutes).
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How rare is it for an elite big man to come out of college with a positive Pure Point Rating? Well, in the past 10 drafts, there's only been one first-round pick 6'10" or taller with a PPR better than negative-1: Kentucky's Anthony Davis (-0.59 in '11-12), who's on a trajectory to win an MVP in the next 2-3 years. And there's been just one draftee 6'10" or taller with a better college PPR than Kaminsky's +0.47: Florida's Chandler Parsons (+0.82 in '10-11), who was a second-round steal by the Rockets and functions as a small forward.
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