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LOL at thought of Dekker being a superior athlete to Oubre. Guess this Cy guy just argues any point regardless how stupid. Why are you so conflicted? Find peace ok?
 
ThaPhunkPhenomenon said:
LOL at thought of Dekker being a superior athlete to Oubre. Guess this Cy guy just argues any point regardless how stupid. Why are you so conflicted? Find peace ok?
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I never said he was a superior athlete. Just said he uses his athleticism in games better than Oubre does.You really need to learn how to read.
 
Dekker has very functional in-game athleticism. I don't care if it says he jumped 'only' 35'' at the combine. He knows how to use it and uses it to full effect in in-game situations. Russell Westbrook had only 36'' vertical too. Nobody would say he's not an amazing athlete simply because he's aggressive with his athleticism and he knows how to use in games with people around him. The athleticism of most players gets slowed down with bodies around them. That's not the case with Dekker.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Jonathan Givony posted a 19.5" standing vertical last year, Sam Dekker a 25.5" standing vertical this year.
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How many times is Dekker going to be standing flat footed and jumping while playing basketball?

That number was probably just a fluke. I really don't believe it's an accurate representation of his athletic ability. When combine numbers don't agree with the eye test, you can kind of throw them out the window.
 
The only reason I would like the Jazz to draft Kaminski, is to watch David Locke's head explode. Other than that delight...not so much.
 
Cy said:
How many times is Dekker going to be standing flat footed and jumping while playing basketball?

That number was probably just a fluke. I really don't believe it's an accurate representation of his athletic ability. When combine numbers don't agree with the eye test, you can kind of throw them out the window.
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I like Dekker.

You do jump off of two feet flat footed a fair amount when rebounding near the basket. Timing and how quickly you can jump are just as big of factors as going really high. I think he is a decent functional athlete. I have more concerns about his handle and passing if he is a full time 3. If he plays 3 and a bunch at 4 I'm less concerned.

The more I think about this draft the more I'd be inclined to move back for a decent future first or a player. Boston, Milwaukee, Washington, and maybe Toronto if they'd do 20 and Patterson for Booker and 12.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I like Dekker.

You do jump off of two feet flat footed a fair amount when rebounding near the basket. Timing and how quickly you can jump are just as big of factors as going really high. I think he is a decent functional athlete. I have more concerns about his handle and passing if he is a full time 3. If he plays 3 and a bunch at 4 I'm less concerned.

The more I think about this draft the more I'd be inclined to move back for a decent future first or a player. Boston, Milwaukee, Washington, and maybe Toronto if they'd do 20 and Patterson for Booker and 12.
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Yeah, but you have to factor in strength when you are going up for those rebounds. It's not like it's 2 players just jumping from a standstill without contact.
 
Cy said:
Yeah, but you have to factor in strength when you are going up for those rebounds. It's not like it's 2 players just jumping from a standstill without contact.
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Right... its a functionality thing. You have to box, hold, then jump. Point was it does happen but its not like you are just jumping for height.

Oubre it isn't the physical tools its the mental aspects that scare me... He seems a bit Waitersish with his assessment of his game. Good to be confident... I am wary of the guy who has to tell you how great he is or is going to be.
 
ThaPhunkPhenomenon said:
Damn.... J0nathan has the hops!
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Bruh who knew Jazzfanzers could be so complimentary?! Yall got me feeling mighty athletic :cool:.

I could hop out of this chair right now, and bounce 25" in the air without taking a step. no lie. Not saying that thats impressive, it should be fairly pedestrian, but people are fat and dont prioritize being able to jump kick taller people in the face.
 
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