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Dang it…you guys beat me to it. Oh well, here goes my long-winded (as usual) post.

If we're picking where we're slotted to be at, or maybe even a little earlier, and the players are who they are right now (they won't be), the guy I'm taking if Johnson and Russell are off the board is Booker. Hell, maybe even if Russell is on the board, I'd consider it. If it wasn't for the Harrison brothers being bitchy if they get benched, Booker would be starting (don't be surprised to see him starting come tournament time). He's better than they are, by a lot.

Now we have to realize he's not getting asked to do a lot, but you can tell he can. He can drive, I saw a play in the Texas A&M game where his defender respected his drive game enough that as he was in triple threat he threatened to drive, his defender bit and he stepped back and nailed a deep three. That's impressive, because everybody thinks he's just a shooter. His defense can look a little lackadaisical at times, but he has the skills and potential to be a plus defender…as of now, he's just average, but he's a freshman on a team with a loaded front court, he can adjust (Klay Thompson certainly did). As has been mentioned, he has a very high bball IQ. I don't think we need to go over it again.

On a team full of players who lack a lot of offensive skills, he stands out. Even though he could (and sometimes should be), he's not much of a ball-stopper. He just makes the right play. I figure if he was on a team like Ohio State, Indiana or something else where he was one of the only offensive options, he would be putting up some damn good numbers. Unfortunately he's not, so it's almost kind of like gambling on a European player…we don't know what he could be doing, we can just project. He's not as good of a passer/creator as Russell, but he's certainly a better shooter, and I would argue he has better athleticism and defensive tools. Russell will most likely (and probably should) go earlier though. I'm all aboard on the Booker to Utah train. His ceiling is most definitely Klay, and even if (and he probably won't) he doesn't reach that, he'll still be a good player. I would easily take him over Porz, WCS, Oubre, Turner and maybe even Mudiay (but probably not).
 
This supposed "Laker fan" wants his team to tank.

lol

"I hope the Lakers lose every game, because if you're going to lose, lose. I'm serious."

"If you're going to lose, you have to lose, because you can't be in the middle of the pack. You either have to be great or you have to be bad, to get a good [draft] pick."

-Some dude named Magic Johnson
 
This supposed "Laker fan" wants his team to tank.

lol



-Some dude named Magic Johnson

Magic-Johnson-Son1.jpg


He created this…can't take the dude seriously now.
 
Dang it…you guys beat me to it. Oh well, here goes my long-winded (as usual) post.

If we're picking where we're slotted to be at, or maybe even a little earlier, and the players are who they are right now (they won't be), the guy I'm taking if Johnson and Russell are off the board is Booker. Hell, maybe even if Russell is on the board, I'd consider it. If it wasn't for the Harrison brothers being bitchy if they get benched, Booker would be starting (don't be surprised to see him starting come tournament time). He's better than they are, by a lot.

Now we have to realize he's not getting asked to do a lot, but you can tell he can. He can drive, I saw a play in the Texas A&M game where his defender respected his drive game enough that as he was in triple threat he threatened to drive, his defender bit and he stepped back and nailed a deep three. That's impressive, because everybody thinks he's just a shooter. His defense can look a little lackadaisical at times, but he has the skills and potential to be a plus defender…as of now, he's just average, but he's a freshman on a team with a loaded front court, he can adjust (Klay Thompson certainly did). As has been mentioned, he has a very high bball IQ. I don't think we need to go over it again.

On a team full of players who lack a lot of offensive skills, he stands out. Even though he could (and sometimes should be), he's not much of a ball-stopper. He just makes the right play. I figure if he was on a team like Ohio State, Indiana or something else where he was one of the only offensive options, he would be putting up some damn good numbers. Unfortunately he's not, so it's almost kind of like gambling on a European player…we don't know what he could be doing, we can just project. He's not as good of a passer/creator as Russell, but he's certainly a better shooter, and I would argue he has better athleticism and defensive tools. Russell will most likely (and probably should) go earlier though. I'm all aboard on the Booker to Utah train. His ceiling is most definitely Klay, and even if (and he probably won't) he doesn't reach that, he'll still be a good player. I would easily take him over Porz, WCS, Oubre, Turner and maybe even Mudiay (but probably not).

I don't think it'd be a terrible pick either because I'd feel confident in banking on his work ethic. That's what's gonna make or break 99% of prospects anyway. He just seems like one of those guys that will be eager to improve year after year. I probably wouldn't take him as high as you doe, I'd probably go for a higher risk/reward pick.
 
Dang it…you guys beat me to it. Oh well, here goes my long-winded (as usual) post.

If we're picking where we're slotted to be at, or maybe even a little earlier, and the players are who they are right now (they won't be), the guy I'm taking if Johnson and Russell are off the board is Booker. Hell, maybe even if Russell is on the board, I'd consider it. If it wasn't for the Harrison brothers being bitchy if they get benched, Booker would be starting (don't be surprised to see him starting come tournament time). He's better than they are, by a lot.

Now we have to realize he's not getting asked to do a lot, but you can tell he can. He can drive, I saw a play in the Texas A&M game where his defender respected his drive game enough that as he was in triple threat he threatened to drive, his defender bit and he stepped back and nailed a deep three. That's impressive, because everybody thinks he's just a shooter. His defense can look a little lackadaisical at times, but he has the skills and potential to be a plus defender…as of now, he's just average, but he's a freshman on a team with a loaded front court, he can adjust (Klay Thompson certainly did). As has been mentioned, he has a very high bball IQ. I don't think we need to go over it again.

On a team full of players who lack a lot of offensive skills, he stands out. Even though he could (and sometimes should be), he's not much of a ball-stopper. He just makes the right play. I figure if he was on a team like Ohio State, Indiana or something else where he was one of the only offensive options, he would be putting up some damn good numbers. Unfortunately he's not, so it's almost kind of like gambling on a European player…we don't know what he could be doing, we can just project. He's not as good of a passer/creator as Russell, but he's certainly a better shooter, and I would argue he has better athleticism and defensive tools. Russell will most likely (and probably should) go earlier though. I'm all aboard on the Booker to Utah train. His ceiling is most definitely Klay, and even if (and he probably won't) he doesn't reach that, he'll still be a good player. I would easily take him over Porz, WCS, Oubre, Turner and maybe even Mudiay (but probably not).

I am not sure it's justifiable to get him at the 5-8 range, but I'd be down with it if we get 9-12 and everybody we like is taken. The thing with him is - his mesurables are not great. His wingspan is 6'6.25'' and his standing reach is 8'4'' which is on the short end for SGs. For example, Klay had wingspan of 6'9'' and standing reach 8'7.5'' coming into the draft, which is great for the position. But yah... in general I really like him and his play... I think I've been one of the people harping the most about him here.
 
I am not sure it's justifiable to get him at the 5-8 range, but I'd be down with it if we get 9-12 and everybody we like is taken. The thing with him is - his mesurables are not great. His wingspan is 6'6.25'' and his standing reach is 8'4'' which is on the short end for SGs. For example, Klay had wingspan of 6'9'' and standing reach 8'7.5'' coming into the draft, which is great for the position. But yah... in general I really like him and his play... I think I've been one of the people harping the most about him here.

All valid points…he's just one of those guys I believe in. He's smart enough to know what he can do and what he can't, I truly believe if he enters, he'll be one of the best players from this draft. I'll keep on believing that until he proves me wrong.
 
I don't think it'd be a terrible pick either because I'd feel confident in banking on his work ethic. That's what's gonna make or break 99% of prospects anyway. He just seems like one of those guys that will be eager to improve year after year. I probably wouldn't take him as high as you doe, I'd probably go for a higher risk/reward pick.

I understand why you'd wanna do that, but that's how teams end up taking guys like Jan Vesely and Bismack Biyombo over Klay Thompson. I like to take guys that I know will produce.


/probably a bad comparison cause that was kind of a sucky draft, and Klay really did some out of nowhere to be as good as he is.
 
I understand why you'd wanna do that, but that's how teams end up taking guys like Jan Vesely and Bismack Biyombo over Klay Thompson. I like to take guys that I know will produce.


/probably a bad comparison cause that was kind of a sucky draft, and Klay really did some out of nowhere to be as good as he is.

There are also examples of taking the safer pick that didn't pan out either... For instance taking Terrance Ross instead of Drummond. There are so many variables that make the draft a crap shoot. There really aren't many safe picks here.

I like booker but wouldn't draft him that high. I'd slide down and pick up assets on the way if we really liked him.
 
There are also examples of taking the safer pick that didn't pan out either... For instance taking Terrance Ross instead of Drummond. There are so many variables that make the draft a crap shoot. There really aren't many safe picks here.

I like booker but wouldn't draft him that high. I'd slide down and pick up assets on the way if we really liked him.

Idk man…I would argue that taking a true freshman who averaged 10/8/3 in 28 mpg with a pretty insane combination of size/athleticism was a pretty safe pick. I'm a big Drummond fan though.
 
How about Trey Burke over either Goannis Antetokounmpo or Dennis Schroeder? Is that a better example?

Trey's measurables sucked, but his production in college was electric. Shooting, clutch, leadership, etc. Turns out that he can't shoot or defend at the next level and his upside stinks because of his limited athleticism. IF he somehow fixes his shooting, great. He's a spotty starter or a solid backup. I said at the time of the draft that it's better to swing and miss on the homerun, than it is to bunt and get safely on to first base.

I still believe that. Okafor, Towns, Russell, Porzingis, Johnson, Hezonja or Mudiay. Anything less than those guys and I start looking at possibly trading the pick for a veteran.
 
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