Following potential 2017 draftees...

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

For those who are bored, curious, or both, here's Chad Ford's lottery mock machine -- https://www.espn.com/nba/lottery2017/mockdraft

He seems to think Luke Kennard is a lottery pick.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I'm not even sure they fully understand what's going on.

They don't.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Gonzaga listed Collins as a forward. Draft Express calls him a PF/C. He could play either position depending on match-ups and the team he's on.

I understand but next to Gobert I would rather have a big wing that can shoot and create than a Collins or Lauri... if we move up I hope it isn't for Collins because I don't see him as a great fit next to gobert.

 

[Elizah Huge]

For those who are bored, curious, or both, here's Chad Ford's lottery mock machine -- https://www.espn.com/nba/lottery2017/mockdraft

He seems to think Luke Kennard is a lottery pick.

Kennard should be a lottery pick.


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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Once you're outside of the top 10 or 12 of this draft, it's not clear you're getting a better player than you could get at 24. Maybe there's some drop off around 15, but the draft gets pretty flat and subjective from there.

 

[Park Bites]

Once you're outside of the top 10 or 12 of this draft, it's not clear you're getting a better player than you could get at 24. Maybe there's some drop off around 15, but the draft gets pretty flat and subjective from there.

I concur

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[Handlogten's Heros]

Once you're outside of the top 10 or 12 of this draft, it's not clear you're getting a better player than you could get at 24. Maybe there's some drop off around 15, but the draft gets pretty flat and subjective from there.

Yeah I'd say 14-15ish and then its an eye of the beholder thing or some home run risk/reward guys. Good draft to have a couple chances though.

 

[zyzz]

Once you're outside of the top 10 or 12 of this draft, it's not clear you're getting a better player than you could get at 24. Maybe there's some drop off around 15, but the draft gets pretty flat and subjective from there.

I think so too. I think this draft will be like 2011, where picks 3 or 4 through 10 are meh, and players in the teens and twenties will be very good.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I understand but next to Gobert I would rather have a big wing that can shoot and create than a Collins or Lauri... if we move up I hope it isn't for Collins because I don't see him as a great fit next to gobert.

I think Collins has Serge Ibaka type upside. PF who can shoot without a ton of game feel.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I think Collins has Serge Ibaka type upside. PF who can shoot without a ton of game feel.

Bad comparison. Collins coming out of college has advanced post moves compared to Ibaka now.


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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Saying a player has Ibaka upside is not the same as saying he's Ibaka.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Bad comparison. Collins coming out of college has advanced post moves compared to Ibaka now.


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He played dudes in the WCC.... Give me a ****ing break.

He is very similar to Serge Ibaka. Dont give me that BS about post-moves. Comparisons doesnt mean they are the exact same ****ing players, ****'s sake. Collins had some hook shots against WCC players. Wow.

He is long, athletic, and has a shooting stroke that projects to the 3pt line. He can protect the rim and finish around the basket. He lacks the ability to really feel/see the game. That is basically a dead ringer for Serge Ibaka. Sorry they dont check every box.