Following potential 2017 draftees...

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Saying a player has Ibaka upside is not the same as saying he's Ibaka.

Thank you. I thought that much was obvious, but I guess not for WC.

 

[Elizah Huge]

He played dudes in the WCC.... Give me a ****ing break.

He is very similar to Serge Ibaka. Dont give me that BS about post-moves. Comparisons doesnt mean they are the exact same ****ing players, ****'s sake. Collins had some hook shots against WCC players. Wow.

He is long, athletic, and has a shooting stroke that projects to the 3pt line. He can protect the rim and finish around the basket. He lacks the ability to really feel/see the game. That is basically a dead ringer for Serge Ibaka. Sorry they dont check every box.

Damn bro, a little passionate about the comparison? Lmao, I don't see the similarity at all on the offensive side of the ball. Don't be so defensive.


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[Elizah Huge]

Thank you. I thought that much was obvious, but I guess not for WC.

You also said he doesn't have a lot of feel for the game. Which is wrong.


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Damn bro, a little passionate about the comparison? Lmao, I don't see the similarity at all on the offensive side of the ball. Don't be so defensive.


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Name me some other players that are 3pt shooters and shot blockers and have that combination of length and athletic ability....

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You also said he doesn't have a lot of feel for the game. Which is wrong.


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No, that is right. .4 assist per game and 1.5 turnovers per game.

What do you call that?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Damn bro, a little passionate about the comparison? Lmao, I don't see the similarity at all on the offensive side of the ball. Don't be so defensive.


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It's just annoying as **** that you point out one little thing like that completely negates a comparison. And you call me the ****ing contrarian. What does that make you?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Name me some other players that are 3pt shooters and shot blockers and have that combination of length and athletic ability....

Collins doesn't seem quite as quick or explosive to me as Myles Turner per the eye test, but that may be racial bias. Otherwise that comparison might be tempting. Collins hasn't played in enough different situations to show what he'll be exactly, but he's working with some compelling tools. Turner was a more dominant shot blocker throughout his freshman year, though Collins showed flashes late in the season and in the tournament.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Collins doesn't seem quite as quick or explosive to me as Myles Turner per the eye test, but that may be racial bias. Otherwise that comparison might be tempting. Collins hasn't played in enough different situations to show what he'll be exactly, but he's working with some compelling tools. Turner was a more dominant shot blocker throughout his freshman year, though Collins showed flashes late in the season and in the tournament.

I would say he looks quicker and more explosive than Turner.

 

[Elizah Huge]

No, that is right. .4 assist per game and 1.5 turnovers per game.

What do you call that?

Why don't we just use what you already said about the matter.

That's college basketball. If you arent a focal point of an offense as a big, it's basically impossible to consistently get assists. I wouldn't hold it against him.

LMAO



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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Why don't we just use what you already said about the matter.



LMAO



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What's lmao about that? I'm not holding it against him. I still like him as a prospect and have him in the lottery. He doesnt have great game feel though. That's all I said. Keep searching though man.

 

[Elizah Huge]

What's lmao about that? I'm not holding it against him. I still like him as a prospect and have him in the lottery. He doesnt have great game feel though. That's all I said. Keep searching though man.

You're not holding it against him but when you're arguing against me you will because it means he has no feel for the game when you clearly said it's hard for big men to get assists.

Backtrack some more. It's hilarious.


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

You're not holding it against him but when you're arguing against me you will because it means he has no feel for the game when you clearly said it's hard for big men to get assists.

Backtrack some more. It's hilarious.


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Yes, I said "no feel for the game". I said "lack of feel"

Good lord, you are ****ing ridiculous. Really. I can defend his lack of assist as it not being an indictment on his overall value as a basketball player and point to his assist to turnover ratio as a lack of feel for the game when I'm making a comparison to a player who also has a similar limitation in his game.

Try harder.