Following Potential 2018 Draftees

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by Dr. Jones, Aug 18, 2015.

  1. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    Guys I'd be happy with:

    KBD
    Okogie
    Huerter
    Donte
    Evans
    Brown

    Guys I'd be sad with:

    Milton
    Brunson
    Simons
    Holiday
    Robinson, Mitchell
    Wagner

    Would be cool with any of the guys in the second group in the second round.
     
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  2. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    Guys I'm intrigued with but not sold on:

    Jerome Robnison
    Okobo
    Justin Jackson
    Shamet
     
  3. Snafz

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    If we end up picking at 21, which is not a given, I am leaning toward Evans, Huerter or KBD.
     
  4. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    I think we can get one of the Philly picks with a reasonable offer. 26, 38, 39. the also have 10 and a roster crunch.

    I'd see if they would trade our 2019 1st (lotto protected) for 26. Clears some space and they defer a pick... I think the 2019 draft is pretty meh as of right now. I think they might do Bayless for unguaranteeds and maybe a future second. They may use 26 to move up and get Mikal.

    I also wonder if they'd do Bayless and 38/39 for the unguaranteed guys.
     
  5. Revolution 9

    Revolution 9 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    sad with Robinson? wow....
     
  6. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    Very sad... g league fodder for the next 2-3 years.
     
  7. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    I reserve the right to put him in my top 15 doe... if reports of him being a hard-worker/gym rat come out. There is room on my top 15 list for everybody... except Grayson Allen (who I think could be good, but he is just so douchey).
     
  8. Revolution 9

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    I'm falling more and more in love with Huerter by the minute.

    The kid can pass, and rain down 3s. I want to see him on our squad so bad next year.
     
  9. Revolution 9

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    damn! I think he needs to be in the right situation, but I think he could thrive with us. he has so many pluses.

    I guess we both just hope Huerter is the guy so both of us can be happy right?
     
  10. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    KBD, Hutchison and Jerome Robinson would each give the Jazz a legitimate scoring option at the 4, 3 and 2, respectively. They have to be appealing, and one or two of them should be available at #21.

    Kevin Huerter looks to be the best floor spacer and pure shooter with enough size at the wing and a quick enough release to get looks off--e.g., Kyle Korver if not Klay Thompson. That has to be appealing as well. He can also create off the dribble and should be passable on defense.

    Anfernee Simons and Josh Okogie would be developmental prospects. They have a nice combination of athleticism and potential, but it's not clear to me that their upside is so great that it justifies the risk and the wait to develop them--especially when there are so many other quality prospects on the board. A player who is already 21 can step right in to the same development arc and timeframe as Mitchell, Exum and Gobert (to a lesser extent). To me, this would make them appealing as very late 1st-round or early 2nd-round picks.

    Elie Okobo and Khyri Thomas both have potential as high-level combo-guards, but I'm not seeing enough star potential to set them apart from the others right now.

    I don't know what to think about Dzanan Musa. He looks like a liability on defense to me, and I wonder about his ability to hold up against elite, physical defense. However, if he's really more awesome than everyone else, I guess you take him.

    This is a very strong draft for wings when you consider that Musa, Huerter, Hutchison, Evans, Frazier, J. Robinson and KBD could all be available after #15.
     
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  11. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    KBD I think is my #1 reasonable target if we stay at #21. I like Heurter... if we had a guy using off ball screens like that it would open some things up. Putting multiple pressure points on the defense.

    Again... I'd like to get a second pick in the 20s or 30s... lots of good prospects.
     
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  12. stitches

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    The thing I worry about with Huerter is... I had scarily similar feelings about RJ Hunter as I do about Huerter. I loved his shooting and I loved his passing/playmaking on the move, too... and I had similar worries about his defense. This is the way he fails in the league - the problems with his speed and wiggle on ball leak into his ability to get open off-ball, thus he doesn't get many good shots - %s drop and he cannot handle any position on D so he becomes unplayable and is out of the league.
     
  13. Saint Cy of JFC

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    Yeah, but Hunter was never actually a great shooter. He also has a lot thinner frame than Hueter and a weirder release. Also was a high usage college player and couldnt adjust to having the ball less in the pros.
     
  14. stitches

    stitches Well-Known Member

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    He was pretty good for his first 2 years, then his %s dropped when he had to take even larger load. You are right he had a slighter frame though... Huerter is also a bit taller.
     
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  16. Xthren

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    That is going to be an amazing work out
     
  17. Eminence

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    I like Huerter well enough and would be fine with him at #21, but I don't think he's the level of shooter people are discussing, don't think he's in the same league as Klay/Korver type guys.
     
  18. LoPo

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    We've spent a ton of time talking about combine measurements, wingspans, reach, etc. Just look at this beast's info:

    Size:
    7'1", 7'3" with shoes
    275 pounds
    7'8" wingspan
    9'6" standing reach
    11.5" wide by 9.5" long hands

    Athleticism:
    48" vertical, yes, that is correct. Some say it was 50".
    Sub 11 second 100 yard dash
    Threw shot put 56 feet
    Conference Champion Triple Jump and High Jump Champion
    Ran the 220 hurdles and 200 yard dash at Kansas in college
    Bench pressed 500 pounds

    Wilt was simply one of a kind. To have that athleticism and strength while having a resume competing in those track and field events truly made him one of a kind. Incredible. LeBron dominates with a unique combo of size and speed. Just imagine a guy as fast but stronger and 7'3" with a higher vertical.

    https://howtheyplay.com/team-sports/Why-Wilt-Chamberlain-was-the-Greatest-Athlete-of-All-Time
    http://theexercisers.com/how-to-inc...e-vertical-jump/highest-vertical-jump-in-nba/
    http://ballislife.com/young-wilt-chamberlain-would-destroy-todays-nba/
    https://bleacherreport.com/articles...kishly-athletic-players-in-nba-history#slide8
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/438984-wilt-chamberlain-did-he-really-play-in-weak-era
     
  19. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    And my grandpa walked 5 miles in the snow to school every day or some ****. No one cares about old people's exaggerations.
     
  20. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    Yeah -- KBD, Metu and PJ Washington all in one workout is pretty dope. Props to KBD for taking the workout against guys slated to go lower than him. PJ Washington is a 4 in today's league and it will be good to see how KBD guards him.
     

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