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K... so they are looking and have Donte listed as bpa... then they go we didn’t take Hart who is a completely different player... never mind let’s take someone else.

Maybe they see Hart’s success and say let’s get us some of that... but I don’t think they talk about Hart at all when considering drafting Donte.
There is no way Donte is the 21st or high player on the board.
 
Listening to Ryan McDonogh....they had a plan, acquired a bunch of assets, developerd several young players and now they have a stellar head coach and the number one pick.

I hate to criticize my Jazz, but they made a number of mistakes 2011-2017, and now the asset cupboard is kind of empty.

agreed, always said McDonogh is a good gm.

It was the Suns who offerered multiple lotto picks in 2016 for Hayward.

Jazz still have great young peices, players with room for plenty of improvement
 
Jarred Vanderbilt.

Totally forgot he exists. Not sure it's injury related, but when I watched him play at Kentucky I wasn't impressed with any part of his game except being long and athletic, but then he moved very uncoordinated and I didn't even like that any longer.
 
Doncic has that weird athletic trait that is hard to appreciate because it doesn't look 'athletic'. I think there was a piece on it about Harden a while ago - the ability to decelerate/stop on a dime and with full control in short spaces. This is why all his step backs leave him completely open. It's quite impressive. The first time he does it, you think - oh that's probably just bad defense, but then he does it again and again and again and every single time he has like 5+ feet of space to shoot it uninterrupted. I would want to see him do it against NBA level athletes and defenders but it looks extremely impressive at this level.
 
Doncic has that weird athletic trait that is hard to appreciate because it doesn't look 'athletic'. I think there was a piece on it about Harden a while ago - the ability to decelerate/stop on a dime and with full control in short spaces. This is why all his step backs leave him completely open. It's quite impressive. The first time he does it, you think - oh that's probably just bad defense, but then he does it again and again and again and every single time he has like 5+ feet of space to shoot it uninterrupted. I would want to see him do it against NBA level athletes and defenders but it looks extremely impressive at this level.

He's going 2nd to the Kings. Theyll give him plenty of minutes right away
 
Regarding Josh Hart. After the draft last year, David Locke said that if Utah stayed put at 24, they were taking Tony Bradley or Josh Hart. Wonder if they went with Bradley because they already drafted a backcourt player in Mitchell. I think they still would have went with Bradley. They seemed pretty smitten with him.

I missed the scrimmage today. How did Bowen look?
 
Regarding Josh Hart. After the draft last year, David Locke said that if Utah stayed put at 24, they were taking Tony Bradley or Josh Hart. Wonder if they went with Bradley because they already drafted a backcourt player in Mitchell. I think they still would have went with Bradley. They seemed pretty smitten with him.

I missed the scrimmage today. How did Bowen look?
It sounded like they had Bradley rated higher - especially since they traded up to get him. Apparently they had him rated in the top 20 last year. Hopefully he lives up to that once he matures. Jazz are playing the long game with him for sure.
 
There is no way Donte is the 21st or high player on the board.

Did I say he was? Did I say I wouldn’t take him at 21? I clearly said I would like to get a later pick to get him and I don’t think we should take him at 21.

I’m simply saying if the jazz get another pick... say #31... and Donte is on their board... they won’t pass him up because they decided not to draft josh hart. Your whole thing of “why would they pick Donte if they passed on Hart” is dumb... it isn’t a factor at all.

They are different players and none of us know where he fits on their board. I would have thought Semi, Hart and others were higher than TB because of positional scarcity but I was wrong.
 
I really don't expect the Jazz to be drafting at 21 if at all in the first round. Keep in mind the Jazz have not drafted where they were expected to in 3 of the last 5 years. The Jazz will take a hard look at their
shortcomings vs the Rockets and act accordingly. I think it is pretty clear that Gobert is not going to develop offensively much more than he already has. If the Jazz are building around Gobert, Mitchell, and Rubio then they need to go get another big who can score. There were too many dry spells offensively against a team like the Rockets. The Jazz need to put all their resources into that effort including the 21.

It doesn't even have to a true big, a long 6'7" or 6'8" player is acceptable at PF nowadays.
If you look at some of the recent 6'10" "stretch" PFs that have been drafted on that potential, they have not impressed or seen much court time. Perhaps they are unplayable due to their lack of ball handling and footspeed.
It's a guard and wings league.

Trey Lyles, 6'10", poor defense still holding him to backup PF minutes.
Henry Ellenson, 6'10", slow, doesn't look promising
Noah Vonleh, 6'9", bust
Adriene Payne, 6'10" bust
T.J.Leaf, 6'10" not a good first year
 
I am almost to the point of betting Doncic goes to the suns. Guards and wings are more important in the NBA than centers. Especially centers that are great at defense.

Doncic, Booker, Jackson and Warren are good foundation peices. The sins have money this summer to go out and offer or over pay for a center. They could offer the max to capela or steal favors from the jazz. If they felt so inclined they could offer a Max to cousins.

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