Following Potential 2020 draftees

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  1. Lord Bullingdon

    Lord Bullingdon Well-Known Member

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    This whole bunch of rash overreactions on "real player heights" is hilarious to me. My eye test, strictly on player heights, is obviously superior to 99.9% of the ones you'll find. Anyone whos seen my posts over the years knows it.
     
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  2. Lord Bullingdon

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    Imagine a true 7-footer like Vlade Divac drafting Marvin Bagley 2nd if he was 6'8"... can we just take a moment and appreciate how moronic that actually is..
     
  3. Lord Bullingdon

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    Nfaly Dante(oregon) has been ruled ineligible for at least the first 9 games by the NCAA... Which sucks for us Draftwatchers. Always wondered the process of Imports with stories like his re-classing up, figure somewhere along the way they just get awarded buncha credits they dont really deserve...
     
  4. Lord Bullingdon

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    Makur Maker has submitted paperwork to try and become eligible for the 2020 draft.
     
  5. Lord Bullingdon

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    Aleksej Pokusevski is probably gonna be a name that lingers as a stash candidate til the very end. He's 7', 7'3" wingspan and super mobile. very skinny. player worth mentioning though. Team could take a flier and groom him from afar.
     
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  7. Lord Bullingdon

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    Who's the Illinois homer round here again?? Some funny convos were had years back bout Kendrick Nunn back in the day (before he was at Oakland). He dropped 40 in the preseason td.
     
  8. Lord Bullingdon

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    been goin thru some of these international player getting hyped for this years draft.... This 6'3" french PG looks good!! Matthew Gauzin

     
  9. Lord Bullingdon

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    Israeli PG Yam Madar looks pretty good too. A stash candidate. He's very skinny. Really like the way he shoots it off the dribble tho.
     
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  10. Lord Bullingdon

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    Quote about Derrick White from 2016....

    @Thee jazz fan do extremely accurate takes like these make you want to call names and monday morning QB too? Or is your hand-wringing deeply based in nitpicking?

    Spicy P (Pascal Siakam signd a 140mm extension today) --- used to say he was my favorite player in college back at NMSU.. That put a smile on my face.

    Was watching game 1 of the finals with a friend of mine who talks like a know-it-all on NBA matters but really knows very little, he was downplaying Siakam, and then he dropped 40. It was pretty funny.
     
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  11. Lord Bullingdon

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    I wanna talk about de-emphasizing the importance of 3pt shooting %'s in this thread. Time and time again, year after year, draft watchers are consistently getting fooled by two things; cold streaks and small sample sizes.

    Last year, Tyler Herro starts off cold and people act like he's not lottery grade, or not even top-20, and they didnt even know about his short arms at that point....

    Even better example Jordan Poole goes on a prolonged cold streak to end the season and he falls to the bottom of the 2nd rd from most prognosticators... Warriors take him in the first round..

    In the past few years no example is better than Lonzo Ball, and the Lakers have paid dearly for that error. Lonzo is a historically bad FT shooter, yet at UCLA he had people fooled into thinking his shot was fixed. (lookin at you Cy)

    All 3pt attempts are not created equal. We all know about the halfcourt heaves that some players chuck up or some players eat to save %'s. There's all different levels of deterrence involved with every 3pt shot. Shooting a 3pointer over Mitchell Robinson or Rudy is not like shooting one over Isaiah Thomas.

    Things like this are why I say you've really got to watch the games, build an eye test, trust your eyes, and adjust accordingly. Some of this data lacks nuance, it's all different variables clumped together with the illusion of uniformity.

    It also doesnt take into account change, evolution, mutability, which of course is key when moving to higher levels of competition (in any arena).. To look at these %'s and to use them as gospel is making a fatal error, that should be common knowledge, to do that with the percentages means you're treating these players as players... their not, their amatuers, and more importantly their PROJECTS -- which is how teams view them (other than in extreme cases like Tim Duncan)..

    In the mechanics of shooting, and lots of mechanics in life, subtle changes can make enormous differences, to just look at this cold data and take it at face value isn't good enough. thats not the way this works. Surely some NBA teams scouts are looking at the shooting motions of these players ----- like baseball scouts look at the mechanics of pitchers, and see wasted, destabilizing motions that can be streamlined and strengthened, so I say lets act like it.

    Now playing shot doctor has been and always will be a slippery slope, but so is taking some of these percentages at face value.

    4 things i look for always is just how a player squares up to the basket, how they set their feet, and also their eyes -- are they focused? or are they just hoping they get it close often the eyes reveal this. the third is how quick the release is, in the NBA this is huge, and will continue to be til the end of days. A super quick release makes fora much better floor spacer. The forth is just how well do they repeat their mechanics? Someone like Pascal Siakam, his mid-range J passed this test with flying colors back at NMSU. Someone like T-Furg, who had a horrid rookie szn shooting the 3 but a spectacular 2nd year is really good at this too.

    In closing; focus on process, not results.

    anyone in the business of hiring will tell you that people who say their "results oriented" in interviews, it's a red-flag.. their the ones who will be blaming outside factors (co-workers) and throwing tantrums once the results dont go their way.. This happens all too often with fan-bases and their rookies, it shouldnt be that way.
     
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  12. Thee jazz fan

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    Show me an extremely accurate take and I won’t Monday qb you, but that quote is laughable, I will however give you props for actually quoting one of your own idiot takes and not out right deleting it. It’s a step up for ya. Your on your way to becoming a real boy. Congrats!!
     
  13. Lord Bullingdon

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    How can i show you anything when you, so obviously, choose to see thru rose colored glasses?? I'm not part of the cult dude, too bad. YOu should have all the tools to show yourself, is it beyond your capacity?? Or is it; you're too busy trying to project your authority complex??? LOL. Sucks for you, you come off as stressed. LOL.

    Derrick White was on the mocks I posted here 2 months before he could be found on any other mock across internet... Anything I post, you're gonna twist it, because you're basically a bot.. I back you into a corner of feigning low awareness to even compete, thats your defense mechanism, being selective, you cant handle me full force... you've made up your mind and your gonna stick with it ---you know, cuz thats how smart people carry on! LOL.


    Shouldnt you be all hyped up over the Jazz and the season starting?? You have some vendetta against an anonymous internet persona? hahahhahah You only further the points that I make. I think you're projecting that you know Utah's gonna lose again this year, so your here for some sort of self indulgence. Trying to twist words for your own pleasure.

    boy? you do have some sort of authority complex hahhaa. thats how you speak, you cant hang when it comes to basketball so you retreat to whats easier for you to resolve, with namecalling. your tactics are weak and childish, bask in it.. your response will surely be repetitive..

    good luck to ya dude, you're gonna need it. Your time is limited on this planet, you're probably bitter about that too. Lemme drop some Confucius for ya;

    “We have two lives, and the second begins when we realize we only have one.”

    You probably actually think you're skilled at talkin down to people, so you're gonna take it upon yourself, to rid the infidels..You've got the nerve!!! Cy's like that.. you're not tho, your tactics are basic, and easily undressed.. The most famous comedian from Utah is rosanne barr... that's about the comedy level peaks seen on this forum too.
     
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  14. Lord Bullingdon

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    1 - Anthony Edwards - 6'4" CG - Georgia
    2 - James Wiseman - 7' C - Memphis
    3 - RJ Hampton - 6'5" PG - International '01
    4 - Cole Anthony - 6'2" PG - UNC
    5 - LaMelo Ball - 6'8" CG - International '01
    6 - N'Faly Dante - 6'11 - C - Oregon
    7 - Nico Mannion - 6'2" CG - Arizona
    8 - Khalil Whitney - 6'7" SF - Kentucky
    9 - Scottie Lewis 6'5" SG/SF - Florida
    10 - Deni Avdija - 6'9" SF - International '01
    11 - Isaiah Stewart - 6'9" PF - Washington
    12 - Precious Achuwia - 6'9" PF - Memphis
    13 - Jaden McDaniels - 6'10 SF/PF - Washington
    14 - Josh Green - 6'6" SG/SF - Arizona
    15 - Tyrese Maxey - 6'3" - CG - Kentucky
    16 - Patrick Williams - 6'8" - SF - FSU
    17 - Samuell Williamson - 6'7 - SG/SF - Louisville
    18 - Tre Mann - 6'4" - Florida
    19 - Charles Bassey - 6'10 PF/C - WKU
    20 - Theo Maledon - 6'5" - International '01
    21 - AJ Lawson - 6'6" SG - South Carolina
    22 - Makur Maker - 6'11" PF/C - International '01
    23 - Kira Lewis - 6'3" - Alabama
    24 - Killian Hayes - 6'4" PG - International '01
    25 - Reggie Perry 6'9" PF/C - Mississippi St.
    26 - Jordan Nwora - 6'8" SF - Louisville
    27 - Amar Sylla - 6'9 - PF - International '01
    28 - Tristan Enaura - 6'9" SF/PF - Kansas
    29 -Devon Dotson - 6'2" PG - Kansas
    30 - Jalen Smith - 6'10" PF - Maryland



    31 - Tyrese Haliburton - 6'5" CG - Iowa St.
    32 - Matthew Hurt - 6'9" SF/PF - Duke
    33 - Ayo Dosunmu - 6'4" - Illinois
    34 - Ashton Hagans 6'3" CG - Kentucky
    35 - Aaron Wiggins - 6'6" SG - Maryland
    36 - Isaiah Joe - 6'4" SG - Arkansas
    37 - Chris Smith 6'9" - SF - UCLA
    38 - Ochai Agbaji 6'5" SG - Kansas
    39 - Malcolm Cazalon - 6'4" SG - International '01
    40 - Filip Petrusev - 6'11" C - Gonzaga
    41 - Jay Scrubb - 6'5" SG - JUCO
    42 - Omer Yertsuven - 7' - Georgetown
    43 - Joe Weiskamp 6'6" SG/SF - Iowa
    44 - Arturs Zagars - 6'2" PG - International '00
    45 - Neemas Queta - 6'11" Utah St.
    46 - Austin Wiley 6'10 C - Auburn
    47 - TyShon Alexander 6'4" SG - Creighton
    48 - Udoka Azubuike - 6'11" - Kansas
    49 - Aaron Henry - 6'6" SG/SF - MSU
    50 - Killian Tillie - 6'10 PF - Gonzaga
    51 - Mamadi Diakite - 6'9" PF/C - Virginia
    52 - Silvio De Souza - 6'9" PF - Kansas
    53 - Malachi Flynn - 6'1" PG - SDSU
    54 - Paul Scruggs - 6'3" CG - Xavier
    55 -Tyler Bey - 6'8" SF/PF - Colorado
    56 - EJ Montgomery 6'10 PF - Kentucky
    57 - Markell Johnson 6'2" PG - NC State
    58 - Javin DeLaurier - 6'9" PF - Duke
    59 -Markus Howard 5'9" - PG - Marquette
    60 - Tre Jones - 6'2" PG - Duke
     
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  15. Lord Bullingdon

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    Quentin Grimes has been granted a waiver and will be eligible to play for Houston this year. Really good news for him, last thing he needed to do was sit out a year.
     
  16. Lord Bullingdon

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    Franz Wagner our 4-6 weeks with a fractured wrist... big blow for UM.
     
  17. Jazz Spazz

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    TBH, I opened the thread expecting to see only Lord Bullingdon posts... and was not disappointed.
    To be fair, I went straight to the last page.
     
  18. Lord Bullingdon

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    @Jazz Spazz U asked for extreme accuracy, right? here it is.
    Take a gander at this post I made in 2016 suggesting Kendrick Nunn in the 2nd rd... LOL, how u gonna say i dont know my ****??...
     
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  19. Douchebag K

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    LORD BULLINGCRAPARTIST. CONE TALK TO US ABOUT THE KINNGGZZZZZ
     
  20. Saint Cy of JFC

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    I do like LaMelo Ball a lot
     

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