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Israeli PG Yam Madar looks pretty good too. A stash candidate. He's very skinny. Really like the way he shoots it off the dribble tho.
 
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Lord Bullingdon said:
That kid is a legit force to be reckoned with!! I'm convinced he'll lead them into the top-25 and a decent seed in the tournament...

he's got some Rodney Hood to his game off the dribble. It's early, but he's my Pascal Siakam of the the 2017 draft!
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Quote about Derrick White from 2016....

@Thee jazz fan do extremely accurate takes like these make you want to call names and monday morning QB too? Or is your hand-wringing deeply based in nitpicking?

Spicy P (Pascal Siakam signd a 140mm extension today) --- used to say he was my favorite player in college back at NMSU.. That put a smile on my face.

Was watching game 1 of the finals with a friend of mine who talks like a know-it-all on NBA matters but really knows very little, he was downplaying Siakam, and then he dropped 40. It was pretty funny.
 
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I wanna talk about de-emphasizing the importance of 3pt shooting %'s in this thread. Time and time again, year after year, draft watchers are consistently getting fooled by two things; cold streaks and small sample sizes.

Last year, Tyler Herro starts off cold and people act like he's not lottery grade, or not even top-20, and they didnt even know about his short arms at that point....

Even better example Jordan Poole goes on a prolonged cold streak to end the season and he falls to the bottom of the 2nd rd from most prognosticators... Warriors take him in the first round..

In the past few years no example is better than Lonzo Ball, and the Lakers have paid dearly for that error. Lonzo is a historically bad FT shooter, yet at UCLA he had people fooled into thinking his shot was fixed. (lookin at you Cy)

All 3pt attempts are not created equal. We all know about the halfcourt heaves that some players chuck up or some players eat to save %'s. There's all different levels of deterrence involved with every 3pt shot. Shooting a 3pointer over Mitchell Robinson or Rudy is not like shooting one over Isaiah Thomas.

Things like this are why I say you've really got to watch the games, build an eye test, trust your eyes, and adjust accordingly. Some of this data lacks nuance, it's all different variables clumped together with the illusion of uniformity.

It also doesnt take into account change, evolution, mutability, which of course is key when moving to higher levels of competition (in any arena).. To look at these %'s and to use them as gospel is making a fatal error, that should be common knowledge, to do that with the percentages means you're treating these players as players... their not, their amatuers, and more importantly their PROJECTS -- which is how teams view them (other than in extreme cases like Tim Duncan)..

In the mechanics of shooting, and lots of mechanics in life, subtle changes can make enormous differences, to just look at this cold data and take it at face value isn't good enough. thats not the way this works. Surely some NBA teams scouts are looking at the shooting motions of these players ----- like baseball scouts look at the mechanics of pitchers, and see wasted, destabilizing motions that can be streamlined and strengthened, so I say lets act like it.

Now playing shot doctor has been and always will be a slippery slope, but so is taking some of these percentages at face value.

4 things i look for always is just how a player squares up to the basket, how they set their feet, and also their eyes -- are they focused? or are they just hoping they get it close often the eyes reveal this. the third is how quick the release is, in the NBA this is huge, and will continue to be til the end of days. A super quick release makes fora much better floor spacer. The forth is just how well do they repeat their mechanics? Someone like Pascal Siakam, his mid-range J passed this test with flying colors back at NMSU. Someone like T-Furg, who had a horrid rookie szn shooting the 3 but a spectacular 2nd year is really good at this too.

In closing; focus on process, not results.

anyone in the business of hiring will tell you that people who say their "results oriented" in interviews, it's a red-flag.. their the ones who will be blaming outside factors (co-workers) and throwing tantrums once the results dont go their way.. This happens all too often with fan-bases and their rookies, it shouldnt be that way.
 
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Lord Bullingdon said:
@Thee jazz fan do extremely accurate takes like these make you want to call names and monday morning QB too? Or is your hand-wringing deeply based in nitpicking?
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Show me an extremely accurate take and I won’t Monday qb you, but that quote is laughable, I will however give you props for actually quoting one of your own idiot takes and not out right deleting it. It’s a step up for ya. Your on your way to becoming a real boy. Congrats!!
 
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Show me an extremely accurate take and I won’t Monday qb you, but that quote is laughable, I will however give you props for actually quoting one of your own idiot takes and not out right deleting it. It’s a step up for ya. Your on your way to becoming a real boy. Congrats!!
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How can i show you anything when you, so obviously, choose to see thru rose colored glasses?? I'm not part of the cult dude, too bad. YOu should have all the tools to show yourself, is it beyond your capacity?? Or is it; you're too busy trying to project your authority complex??? LOL. Sucks for you, you come off as stressed. LOL.

Derrick White was on the mocks I posted here 2 months before he could be found on any other mock across internet... Anything I post, you're gonna twist it, because you're basically a bot.. I back you into a corner of feigning low awareness to even compete, thats your defense mechanism, being selective, you cant handle me full force... you've made up your mind and your gonna stick with it ---you know, cuz thats how smart people carry on! LOL.


Shouldnt you be all hyped up over the Jazz and the season starting?? You have some vendetta against an anonymous internet persona? hahahhahah You only further the points that I make. I think you're projecting that you know Utah's gonna lose again this year, so your here for some sort of self indulgence. Trying to twist words for your own pleasure.

boy? you do have some sort of authority complex hahhaa. thats how you speak, you cant hang when it comes to basketball so you retreat to whats easier for you to resolve, with namecalling. your tactics are weak and childish, bask in it.. your response will surely be repetitive..

good luck to ya dude, you're gonna need it. Your time is limited on this planet, you're probably bitter about that too. Lemme drop some Confucius for ya;

“We have two lives, and the second begins when we realize we only have one.”

You probably actually think you're skilled at talkin down to people, so you're gonna take it upon yourself, to rid the infidels..You've got the nerve!!! Cy's like that.. you're not tho, your tactics are basic, and easily undressed.. The most famous comedian from Utah is rosanne barr... that's about the comedy level peaks seen on this forum too.
 
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1 - Anthony Edwards - 6'4" CG - Georgia
2 - James Wiseman - 7' C - Memphis
3 - RJ Hampton - 6'5" PG - International '01
4 - Cole Anthony - 6'2" PG - UNC
5 - LaMelo Ball - 6'8" CG - International '01
6 - N'Faly Dante - 6'11 - C - Oregon
7 - Nico Mannion - 6'2" CG - Arizona
8 - Khalil Whitney - 6'7" SF - Kentucky
9 - Scottie Lewis 6'5" SG/SF - Florida
10 - Deni Avdija - 6'9" SF - International '01
11 - Isaiah Stewart - 6'9" PF - Washington
12 - Precious Achuwia - 6'9" PF - Memphis
13 - Jaden McDaniels - 6'10 SF/PF - Washington
14 - Josh Green - 6'6" SG/SF - Arizona
15 - Tyrese Maxey - 6'3" - CG - Kentucky
16 - Patrick Williams - 6'8" - SF - FSU
17 - Samuell Williamson - 6'7 - SG/SF - Louisville
18 - Tre Mann - 6'4" - Florida
19 - Charles Bassey - 6'10 PF/C - WKU
20 - Theo Maledon - 6'5" - International '01
21 - AJ Lawson - 6'6" SG - South Carolina
22 - Makur Maker - 6'11" PF/C - International '01
23 - Kira Lewis - 6'3" - Alabama
24 - Killian Hayes - 6'4" PG - International '01
25 - Reggie Perry 6'9" PF/C - Mississippi St.
26 - Jordan Nwora - 6'8" SF - Louisville
27 - Amar Sylla - 6'9 - PF - International '01
28 - Tristan Enaura - 6'9" SF/PF - Kansas
29 -Devon Dotson - 6'2" PG - Kansas
30 - Jalen Smith - 6'10" PF - Maryland



31 - Tyrese Haliburton - 6'5" CG - Iowa St.
32 - Matthew Hurt - 6'9" SF/PF - Duke
33 - Ayo Dosunmu - 6'4" - Illinois
34 - Ashton Hagans 6'3" CG - Kentucky
35 - Aaron Wiggins - 6'6" SG - Maryland
36 - Isaiah Joe - 6'4" SG - Arkansas
37 - Chris Smith 6'9" - SF - UCLA
38 - Ochai Agbaji 6'5" SG - Kansas
39 - Malcolm Cazalon - 6'4" SG - International '01
40 - Filip Petrusev - 6'11" C - Gonzaga
41 - Jay Scrubb - 6'5" SG - JUCO
42 - Omer Yertsuven - 7' - Georgetown
43 - Joe Weiskamp 6'6" SG/SF - Iowa
44 - Arturs Zagars - 6'2" PG - International '00
45 - Neemas Queta - 6'11" Utah St.
46 - Austin Wiley 6'10 C - Auburn
47 - TyShon Alexander 6'4" SG - Creighton
48 - Udoka Azubuike - 6'11" - Kansas
49 - Aaron Henry - 6'6" SG/SF - MSU
50 - Killian Tillie - 6'10 PF - Gonzaga
51 - Mamadi Diakite - 6'9" PF/C - Virginia
52 - Silvio De Souza - 6'9" PF - Kansas
53 - Malachi Flynn - 6'1" PG - SDSU
54 - Paul Scruggs - 6'3" CG - Xavier
55 -Tyler Bey - 6'8" SF/PF - Colorado
56 - EJ Montgomery 6'10 PF - Kentucky
57 - Markell Johnson 6'2" PG - NC State
58 - Javin DeLaurier - 6'9" PF - Duke
59 -Markus Howard 5'9" - PG - Marquette
60 - Tre Jones - 6'2" PG - Duke
 
Quentin Grimes has been granted a waiver and will be eligible to play for Houston this year. Really good news for him, last thing he needed to do was sit out a year.
 
TBH, I opened the thread expecting to see only Lord Bullingdon posts... and was not disappointed.
To be fair, I went straight to the last page.
 
Lord Bullingdon said:
Illini fans know their teams well, at least the ones I've met in NY. It's respectable.

Nunn is certainly worthy of mention here, His Jumper is the reason why, he fits the profile of a winner too.. A good player comparison is probably a better Willie Warren..

He's only played in 4 games but the Western Carolina game where he dropped 27 was quite the showing, I'd say a clear sign of things to come.

I wouldn't mind if Utah used a 2nd round pick on him, there's certainly upside if he fits in. Small-ball lineups getting more burn is conducive to these(undersized SG)combo guard types getting advantageous minutes. They drafted Olivier Hanlan last year, there's similarities to their games.

Kendrick is from Simeon HS(Derrick Rose and Jabari Parker) Their always loaded, It's good to be the top dog in the middle of a recruiting hot-spot, he won the State title every year in HS. Nunn also played for Team USA in the summers of 2011 and 2012 winning gold medals in Mexico and Lithuania with the U16 and U17 teams.
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@Jazz Spazz U asked for extreme accuracy, right? here it is.
Take a gander at this post I made in 2016 suggesting Kendrick Nunn in the 2nd rd... LOL, how u gonna say i dont know my ****??...
 
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