Following Potential 2020 draftees

[jom2003]

I like the Duncan Robinson comp for Merrill because both possess the ability to square their body as the shot is being released from their hands, the exact trait you want in a NBA caliber volume shooter. Reddick, Korver, Klay, etc. It basically saves them 0.5 seconds on every catch n shoot and makes them impossible to guard. The opposite of that would be Niang, who can only sustain his % when he is made wide open with no one within 5 ft from him because he can't shoot in any other motion.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm thinking of Woodard as something of a poor man's OG Anunoby (not quite as long, not quite as skilled, not quite as efficient/productive). Anyone else buy the comp? Why or why not? Seems like an OG-like career would be the realistic best-case scenario (there's plenty of worse possible cases, of course), though that would require some good fortune/hard work, as Woodward's likely less skilled than OG was at this point.

I think Woodard has much better shot mechanics and pull-up mechanics than Anunoby. OG was a more fluid athlete and had a better attacking feel. OG's defensive ceiling is higher because I think he has more lock-down potential than Woodard along with the high level switching potential. OG really hasnt developed into an offensive talent yet, he's mostly a 3&D spot up/transition/cut guy. I dont see why Woodard couldnt do exactly what OG has done currently, if not more, on the offensive end come Year 3.

And Ill wait and see what Woodard's official measurements are. I see 7'1 wingspan cited everywhere, but I can't tell where that measurement is coming from. He measured with a 6'11.5 wingspan when he was 15 at a USA camp, so for all I know it could be 7'2 (OG's) by now.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Hope Sam Merrill doesn't get drafted because we don't have a second round pick and we'd have a clear advantage in securing his service as his hometown team if he becomes UDFA

I think its a near certainty he gets drafted unless he explicitly tells teams not unless they intend on giving him a contract (wont accept 2-way, similar to how Terrence Davis went undrafted).

At this point I think he has a higher chance of going in the 30's than going undrafted.

Utah will certainly be able to buy into the 2nd round, but it might not be early enough.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If I had to make a case for Woodard having more potential than the consensus thinks, it would be because of his shot mechanics.

If he ever develops into a player who you trust offensively, he has a super high release point on his midrange jumper. Kind of reminiscent of Hood's jumper. Obviously not that fluid going into his pull-up, but I don't think it's completely outside the realm of possibility that he develops that kind of game.

 

[idiot]

Say the Jazz were able to trade the #23 pick to the Knicks for #27 & 38 (maybe we'd have to add in something extra, such as Tucker -- I'm not really up on how these types of swaps are valued). And say the Jazz ended up with Woodard and Merrill. Would you consider this a win?

Or maybe the better way to ask this is: who would have to be on the board at #23 for you not to consider this a win?

Now obviously with any trade, you can't guarantee who will be available at 27 & 38, but I'm also curious as to whether you think it's likely that Woodard and Merrill will be available there. (Of course this all ignores the question of whether Woodard and Merrill are even high enough on the Jazz's board to think about this.)

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Say the Jazz were able to trade the #23 pick to the Knicks for #27 & 38 (maybe we'd have to add in something extra, such as Tucker -- I'm not really up on how these types of swaps are valued). And say the Jazz ended up with Woodard and Merrill. Would you consider this a win?

Or maybe the better way to ask this is: who would have to be on the board at #23 for you not to consider this a win?

Now obviously with any trade, you can't guarantee who will be available at 27 & 38, but I'm also curious as to whether you think it's likely that Woodard and Merrill will be available there. (Of course this all ignores the question of whether Woodard and Merrill are even high enough on the Jazz's board to think about this.)

If RJ Hampton, Tyrell Terry or Aleksej Pokusevski were on the board at #23, I'd draft one of them and not trade back.

At #27, I'd want Leandro Bolmaro, Jaden McDaniels, Tyler Bey or Paul Reed.

At #38, several guys would be in play for me, including Malachi Flynn, Reggie Perry, Elijah Hughes and maybe Jay Scrubb. Maybe Merrill is in that mix too.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If RJ Hampton, Tyrell Terry or Aleksej Pokusevski were on the board at #23, I'd draft one of them and not trade back.

At #27, I'd want Leandro Bolmaro, Jaden McDaniels, Tyler Bey or Paul Reed.

At #38, several guys would be in play for me, including Malachi Flynn, Reggie Perry, Elijah Hughes and maybe Jay Scrubb. Maybe Merrill is in that mix too.

Still have no idea why you like Perry when he's a significantly worse prospect than Morgan or Brantley.

 

[Game6Conley]

OH MY GOODNESS... DUNCAN ROBINSON WAS SO MUCH BETTER THAN SAM MERRILL..

 

[Game6Conley]

If u go back years in these threads there was no greater advocate for Duncan Robinson than me....

 

[Game6Conley]

I used to say that out of any player in the nation if i needed a 3 at the end of the game i'd choose duncan robinson to shoot it.


I'd say "this guy is the same quality of shooter as Steve Novak, he's not gonna get drafted but he's easily g-league material"

 

[Game6Conley]

I'm thinking of Woodard as something of a poor man's OG Anunoby (not quite as long, not quite as skilled, not quite as efficient/productive). Anyone else buy the comp? Why or why not? Seems like an OG-like career would be the realistic best-case scenario (there's plenty of worse possible cases, of course), though that would require some good fortune/hard work, as Woodward's likely less skilled than OG was at this point.

The thing about this comp is id say it's matchup based; Exactly how tall is Robert Woodard? I've known (and posted) about him here since he was 6'5" maybe 6'6ish, is he a legit 6'7" these days? idk.

OG is a legit 6'8" and looks the part when he's defending powerforwards, thats why I really say it's matchup based, vs smaller PF's I think Woodard can function like that, as the matchups get taller is where i think the comp will deteriorate.


Robert Woodard is not likely less skilled than OG at this point though.... I dont agree with that sentiment. Robert Woodard is a player who for most of his careers position was Swingman, that sorta between a SG and SF thing. OG always been much more of an obvious combo forward.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Officially NBA Draft season.