Following Potential 2025 Draftees

[fishonjazz]

If you can keep a core of Sexton/Lauri/Zion/Walker that's a fun contender if Zion stays healthy. Keep the tank alive this year and hope you land Flagg or Harper and you are going into 2025 as a potential contender.

I would be down with this plan you are suggesting with these 3 posts.

It's risky but so is tanking. Both wind require lots of luck.

Plus we still get to tank for Flagg this year. Just keep Zion out until next season to make sure he gets all the way healthy.

He is a beast when he gets on the court.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Zion is probably broken. As a fan, I'd hate to be on the rollercoaster that came with him.

I like rollercoasters more than haunted house rides.

 

[NAOS_pt2]

I like rollercoasters more than haunted house rides.

you like the taste of your own *** best, though. So it's hard to take you seriously.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Flagg, in 5 ACC games, is shooting 55% from the field, 50% from 3, and 84% from the FT line.

Trust me, the "cant' shoot" isnt something you want to stick with.

I'm not a quitter

 

[Tremendous Upside]

I would be down with this plan you are suggesting with these 3 posts.

It's risky but so is tanking. Both wind require lots of luck.

Plus we still get to tank for Flagg this year. Just keep Zion out until next season to make sure he gets all the way healthy.

He is a beast when he gets on the court.

Zion sounds good to me too. I mean he might get into trouble with random porn stars or buffet tables, but at least we'd have a real playmaker.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

i'd take zion in a heartbeat. problem is, NOP would too which is why in spite of all the problems and games missed, they are hanging on to him. his talent is too tantalizing. and man he looked pretty damn good in that one game back.,

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

i'd take zion in a heartbeat. problem is, NOP would too which is why in spite of all the problems and games missed, they are hanging on to him. his talent is too tantalizing. and man he looked pretty damn good in that one game back.,

I mean, that is yet to be seen. We have no idea what their future plans are at this point.

But I would tend to agree they are probably going to hold out hope they can land a top pick to pair with Zion and continue the dream.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Zion was healthy last year. He played 70 games. He averaged 23pts on 57/33/70, 6 reb, 5ast, 2 stocks. Had an OBPM of 3.3, a DBPM of 0.6. He did not make the all star game or any all nba teams.

He's a very good player when healthy, and if the risk was reasonable he would stay healthy for the majority of his games he would be worth trying to acquire. Also, if the prices is low enough he would be worth trying to acquire. I don't think he's a good enough player when healthy to risk a lot though.

 

[bigmike]

He has a bigger load by far. KD had DJ Augustine. Duke may also finish top 5 in the country in a much more competitive college basketball environment

LOL - that Texas team had 10 scholarship players, 3 players total who eventually got drafted, all 3 of whom were freshmen at the time. They played a seven man rotation, all of whom were freshmen and sophomores. This Duke team has at least 4-5 pros (potentially 6), goes nine deep, and has at least some semblance of vet presence in the backcourt.

 

[KqWIN]

I'm not a shooting expert, but I think Philon's shot is fixable. He has some touch, just needs to get rid of that hitch. I like everything else about his game.


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So I’m not calling you out but asking general questions about shooting form:

Is it better if a bad shooter has “bad form” and can correct what is theoretically holding him back or is it better if the bad shooter has “good form” but is still bad?

I’ve seen it both ways. If he has bad form, he can become a good shooter because he can fix his form. If he has good form, well he can become a good shooter because his form is fine. Just in this draft cycle I’ve seen people say Ace will be a good shooter strictly based on his form, and now we have someone else whose bad form inspires future confidence in his shot.

I struggle to make much of form because it feels like we just apply whatever narrative we want to a prospect we like/dislike.

We see both in reality. I’ve seen the most broken of broken forms turn into good form and it result in better shooting. I’ve also seen guys with great form eventually become great shooters. But how much can we actually attribute that to form (or lack thereof) versus whatever else could cause a player to improve?

Also, good shooting form is subjective of course. There’s really no way of deciding whose form is truly the most effective.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

So I’m not calling you out but asking general questions about shooting form:

Is it better if a bad shooter has “bad form” and can correct what is theoretically holding him back or is it better if the bad shooter has “good form” but is still bad?

I’ve seen it both ways. If he has bad form, he can become a good shooter because he can fix his form. If he has good form, well he can become a good shooter because his form is fine. Just in this draft cycle I’ve seen people say Ace will be a good shooter strictly based on his form, and now we have someone else whose bad form inspires future confidence in his shot.

I struggle to make much of form because it feels like we just apply whatever narrative we want to a prospect we like/dislike.

We see both in reality. I’ve seen the most broken of broken forms turn into good form and it result in better shooting. I’ve also seen guys with great form eventually become great shooters. But how much can we actually attribute that to form (or lack thereof) versus whatever else could cause a player to improve?

Also, good shooting form is subjective of course. There’s really no way of deciding whose form is truly the most effective.

Yeah, I have no idea. I hope the guys I like turn in to good shooters, and don't dismiss the idea that prospects, especially young ones, can get better at shooting.

One thing I have stuck in my head is that guys with good touch can be good shooters even if their form isn't great. I was listening to a podcast awhile back and they were talking about Mikal Bridges shooting and saying they weren't worried because he had good touch and would make whatever shooting motion work for him. I'm not 100% sure what "touch" is, but I kind of get it and it seems to make a little sense to me.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yeah, I have no idea. I hope the guys I like turn in to good shooters, and don't dismiss the idea that prospects, especially young ones, can get better at shooting.

One thing I have stuck in my head is that guys with good touch can be good shooters even if their form isn't great. I was listening to a podcast awhile back and they were talking about Mikal Bridges shooting and saying they weren't worried because he had good touch and would make whatever shooting motion work for him. I'm not 100% sure what "touch" is, but I kind of get it and it seems to make a little sense to me.

It's just a risk, especially when they are starting from a baseline of being not good.