Rocco is averaging 5 PPG in Australia and shooting 45%. He's not better than Kessler on offense. I'm getting extremely tired of people commenting about Kessler because of the aesthetics or having "no moves". His offensive impact is that of an average NBA center. If you want to **** on Kessler, at least do it on the basis of his impact and not what looks cool or what looks less soft.
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Based on the skill level he shows. So far, he's only played a couple games and played limited minutes. There isn't meaningful data from the NBL at this point.
Bro, it's not about "looking cool." It's about the fact that Walker can't score unless he's set up with time and space 4 feet from the basket. As for data, the sample sizes are small and are based on an 18 y.o. in his first professional league.
I don't think Kessler is a long-term fixture with the Jazz. He's a defensive presence and a good personality. There's a reason why there are trade rumors around him, and there are also reasons why the offers coming in are soft--e.g., salary dump and late 1st.
Rolling to the basket, finishing, and getting offensive rebound is most of the job on offense for C's. Most shots outside of 4 feet for C's are complete garbage, you don't want them to shoot it anyways. He's efficient at scoring around the basket and one of the best offensive rebounders in the game. We wouldn't be better off if Kessler was better from floater range but not as good around the basket. Of course there are things you wish he was better at, but those are the things that take him from average to great. People act like the most garbage, ineffective offensive player.
Again, if you want to say Kessler sucks so bad on offense, do it on the basis of his impact...not the aestetics. All metrics have him as about a neutral offensive player, above average in his rookie year and worse than that in his soph season.
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You guys never heard of Egor Demin I guess.
He is an 18 year old from Russia. 6 foot 9.
Demin represented Russia at the 2021 FIBA U16 European Challengers tournament where he had per-40-minute averages of 21.1 points and 6.9 rebounds.[13] His performance at the tournament received comparisons to Luka Dončić by ESPN journalist Mike Schmitz.
I think you guys will learn about him soon.
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He is an 18 year old from Russia. 6 foot 9.
Demin represented Russia at the 2021 FIBA U16 European Challengers tournament where he had per-40-minute averages of 21.1 points and 6.9 rebounds.[13] His performance at the tournament received comparisons to Luka Dončić by ESPN journalist Mike Schmitz.
I think you guys will learn about him soon.
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SoberasHotRod
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I'm pretty sure most of the posters in this thread have heard of him. Personally I'm not going to pay attention to guys until they play real games.
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Idk. I asked if there was any buzz about him and soon after a bunch of the knowledgeable posters posted but didn't give any mention.
I just figure that means he isn't well known. I wouldn't know who he was if wasn't on BYU roster, that's for sure. I don't know how big time of a prospect he is either, hence why I asked the question. Maybe he just isn't getting any buzz
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If you search for his name you'll see that he has been discussed, but not recently because the NCAA season hasn't started so there isn't really anything to talk about.
I'm pretty sure he is getting mocked in the 10-20 range.
There are rumors because other teams value him....
Extremely early to be doing stuff like this, but it does seem like there's a consensus top 4 (maybe 5 with Traore) and then the draft might tail off after that. Flagg, Harper, Bailey, and Edgecomb are the mainstays. Worst record in the league gets you a 52% chance at one of them, let's pray.
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Ya I guess I could have searched but I asked. In fact I dont even know how to search for posts speaking of Demin and even if I did the question I was asking about is what his buzz is like right now. Not whenever he was talked about last.
Seems like he there isn't any buzz about him. That answers my question to my satisfaction. No need to continue the dance that is going nowhere.
...so far with a late FRP and salary ballast.
Hopefully Harper is okay with being in Utah.
If Demin is who we hope he is, I don't think he gets to #12. Maybe though.
Rocco isn't getting to #25, and if he does it means there's something wrong with him.
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I think Harper would be happy with us he'd be landing with a good coach and All-Star teammate for a team that would put the ball in his hands from day one
Please stop this lmao
