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I also see where you are coming from, however, there are not many players with Tre's archetype that have been on successful teams as one of the top players. At least I can't think of any. He seems like he will have great offensive stats but doesn't ever go anywhere winning wise

I think Tre is versatile. Teams can play him like Klay Thompson, Devin Booker, Ray Allen, etc. It’s a very successful archetype.
 
I think Tre is versatile. Teams can play him like Klay Thompson, Devin Booker, Ray Allen, etc. It’s a very successful archetype.

Is that the archetype, or is that being like 99th percentile of all time at that archetype? You've got the second and third best shooters of all time listed there. I think every archetype is good when you look at the very best.
 
I also see where you are coming from, however, there are not many players with Tre's archetype that have been on successful teams as one of the top players. At least I can't think of any. He seems like he will have great offensive stats but doesn't ever go anywhere winning wise
You make good points here. I think there are so many guys like that who are "fine, but nothing special". But we are in the business of gambling here so whatever we choose we cross our fingers and look for the top end outcome.

If I was trying to pick guaranteed solid NBA players I would not have Ace on my top 5 at all.

VJ in my mind is a solid contributor for sure.. but a lot has to happen for him to develop into top tier star.
 
regardless what anybody thinks of Ace or how the lottery falls, he is a lock for top 3. if the jazz don't get a top 3 pick, if you don't like him, you don't have to worry about him. if you do like him, tough ****.
 
Is that the archetype, or is that being like 99th percentile of all time at that archetype? You've got the second and third best shooters of all time listed there. I think every archetype is good when you look at the very best.

I think Tre shows signs of being elite. Obviously, he'll need to work hard, but he has a reputation for doing that as well.
 
regardless what anybody thinks of Ace or how the lottery falls, he is a lock for top 3. if the jazz don't get a top 3 pick, if you don't like him, you don't have to worry about him. if you do like him, tough ****.
Haha, you might be right but I am not so sure.

According to Zach Lowe (he seems to be guy with connections to scouts and front office types), only 1 and 2 are set in stone and 3-10 are "eye of the beholder" in his own words.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLx5-gJgCEk&t=4533s



Timestamp: 55:50 where he talks about it.
 
Raynaud and Wemby played together in France before Wemby joined the main pro team before he went pro in France. I wonder if the Spurs would look at Raynaud at 14 to reunite them.
 
I think Tre shows signs of being elite. Obviously, he'll need to work hard, but he has a reputation for doing that as well.

If anyone in this draft becomes top 3 all time of what they do, they’ll be fine…that’s not the concern people have with that archetype. Every archetype is fine when you take the elite of the elite.
 
Haha, you might be right but I am not so sure.

According to Zach Lowe (he seems to be guy with connections to scouts and front office types), only 1 and 2 are set in stone and 3-10 are "eye of the beholder" in his own words.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLx5-gJgCEk&t=4533s



Timestamp: 55:50 where he talks about it.

thanks for posting.

i think he's speaking in terms of should vs will - i will listen and see what i think after that - which if he's basing it on what he himself thinks, i totally get it. I think there are a lot on here that would agree that's where Ace SHOULD be. the reality is he will be top 3.

just listened and lowe is one of the best, if not the best and he is speaking in terms of "will", but i'd be willing to bet anybody and give double odds (not sure how to say it in betting terms, but we bet $20, i only get $10 if i win - i lose, i pay out $20) that bailey goes top 3.
 
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I would definitely bet on DA drafting Ace at 3....there's no doubt that Ace is his type of prospect. I'm sure some other teams may have Ace lower, the Jazz won't be one of them.
 
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