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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

Comparing the top NBA draft prospects best consecutive 10-game stretch in college basketball this season:

Cooper Flagg - 23.4 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 4.9 APG, 1.4 SPG, 1.3 BPG, 57/47/85 splits

Dylan Harper - 23.8 PPG, 5 RPG, 4.4 APG, 51/37/81 splits

Ace Bailey - 23.3 PPG, 8.5 RPG 1.9 BPG, 1.1 SPG, 49/45/72 splits

Tre Johnson - 24.6 PPG, 3.7 APG, 3.6 RPG, 1 SPG, 44/41/92 splits

VJ Edgecombe - 18.4 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 3.5 APG, 1.6 SPG, 48/41/85 splits

Kon Knueppel - 17.2 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 3.6 APG, 1.4 SPG, 54/46/92 splits

Jeremiah Fears - 21.6 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 4.6 APG, 1.4 SPG, 42/33/87 splits

Collin Murray-Boyles - 21 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 2.9 APG, 1.6 BPG, 1.3 SPG, 59% FG, 75% FT

Kasparas Jakucionis - 20 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 4.8 APG, 1 SPG, 51/46/89 splits

Khaman Maluach - 10.1 PPG, 8.6 RPG, 1.9 BPG, 73% FG, 93% FT

Derik Queen - 19.4 PPG, 10.7 RPG, 1.1 BPG, 1 SPG, 53% FG, 83% FT
 
i've watched a bit more of Kon K I have to say i don't get it in terms of a high draft pick. for around the 8th - 10th pick as a pick for hopefully a complimentary player sure. I just don't see how he's going to be able to translate at anywhere near the same level in the NBA due to his size and being slow and so floor bound I'll barf if we take him at 5
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I think about tiers differently every year, so either I'm evolving, or there's no right way to think about it, lol.

The reason I have Ace/VJ/Tre in a higher tier is:
- Ace is capable of making shots that you only see from star players and the things he needs to work on should/could improve with coaching/maturity.
- Tre had the 2nd/3rd best production in the class for a Freshman. He would be in Harper's tier if he was a little more well rounded.
- VJ had similar production to the lower tier, but his athleticism/defensive play making puts him the higher tier.
All 3 have the size and athleticism to feel confident that they will fit in the NBA

I think it's clear those are the 3-5 guys, and then I think it's perfectly fine if you have personal preferences for anyone else. Like I said, I have Kas in that tier, not because his production/etc. would justify it, but because I like him and his player archetype better than Ace/Tre for example. If you like the stuff that Kon brings more than the others then I don't see a problem with having him in the same tier. This is all subjective.
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Good thoughts here regarding Tiers.

I think my simple definition of Tiers is what the likely trajectory of a player appears to be going in to the draft based on character traits, athleticism, performance, stats,

Tier 1 = Alpha, franchise player regular all star
Tier 2 = Potential all star
Tier 3 = High level starter
Tier 4 = Role Player
Tier 5+ = Fodder
 
Elizah Huge said:
Comparing the top NBA draft prospects best consecutive 10-game stretch in college basketball this season:

Cooper Flagg - 23.4 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 4.9 APG, 1.4 SPG, 1.3 BPG, 57/47/85 splits

Dylan Harper - 23.8 PPG, 5 RPG, 4.4 APG, 51/37/81 splits

Ace Bailey - 23.3 PPG, 8.5 RPG 1.9 BPG, 1.1 SPG, 49/45/72 splits

Tre Johnson - 24.6 PPG, 3.7 APG, 3.6 RPG, 1 SPG, 44/41/92 splits

VJ Edgecombe - 18.4 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 3.5 APG, 1.6 SPG, 48/41/85 splits

Kon Knueppel - 17.2 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 3.6 APG, 1.4 SPG, 54/46/92 splits

Jeremiah Fears - 21.6 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 4.6 APG, 1.4 SPG, 42/33/87 splits

Collin Murray-Boyles - 21 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 2.9 APG, 1.6 BPG, 1.3 SPG, 59% FG, 75% FT

Kasparas Jakucionis - 20 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 4.8 APG, 1 SPG, 51/46/89 splits

Khaman Maluach - 10.1 PPG, 8.6 RPG, 1.9 BPG, 73% FG, 93% FT

Derik Queen - 19.4 PPG, 10.7 RPG, 1.1 BPG, 1 SPG, 53% FG, 83% FT
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Now do the worst 10 game stretch.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Comparing the top NBA draft prospects best consecutive 10-game stretch in college basketball this season:

Cooper Flagg - 23.4 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 4.9 APG, 1.4 SPG, 1.3 BPG, 57/47/85 splits

Dylan Harper - 23.8 PPG, 5 RPG, 4.4 APG, 51/37/81 splits

Ace Bailey - 23.3 PPG, 8.5 RPG 1.9 BPG, 1.1 SPG, 49/45/72 splits

Tre Johnson - 24.6 PPG, 3.7 APG, 3.6 RPG, 1 SPG, 44/41/92 splits

VJ Edgecombe - 18.4 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 3.5 APG, 1.6 SPG, 48/41/85 splits

Kon Knueppel - 17.2 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 3.6 APG, 1.4 SPG, 54/46/92 splits

Jeremiah Fears - 21.6 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 4.6 APG, 1.4 SPG, 42/33/87 splits

Collin Murray-Boyles - 21 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 2.9 APG, 1.6 BPG, 1.3 SPG, 59% FG, 75% FT

Kasparas Jakucionis - 20 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 4.8 APG, 1 SPG, 51/46/89 splits

Khaman Maluach - 10.1 PPG, 8.6 RPG, 1.9 BPG, 73% FG, 93% FT

Derik Queen - 19.4 PPG, 10.7 RPG, 1.1 BPG, 1 SPG, 53% FG, 83% FT
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I'll take Cooper Flagg please

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The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Good thoughts here regarding Tiers.

I think my simple definition of Tiers is what the likely trajectory of a player appears to be going in to the draft based on character traits, athleticism, performance, stats,

Tier 1 = Alpha, franchise player regular all star
Tier 2 = Potential all star
Tier 3 = High level starter
Tier 4 = Role Player
Tier 5+ = Fodder
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I think that's a good way to do it.

I think what makes it difficult is when you look at a prospect and see so many likely scenarios.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Comparing the top NBA draft prospects best consecutive 10-game stretch in college basketball this season:

Cooper Flagg - 23.4 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 4.9 APG, 1.4 SPG, 1.3 BPG, 57/47/85 splits

Dylan Harper - 23.8 PPG, 5 RPG, 4.4 APG, 51/37/81 splits

Ace Bailey - 23.3 PPG, 8.5 RPG 1.9 BPG, 1.1 SPG, 49/45/72 splits

Tre Johnson - 24.6 PPG, 3.7 APG, 3.6 RPG, 1 SPG, 44/41/92 splits

VJ Edgecombe - 18.4 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 3.5 APG, 1.6 SPG, 48/41/85 splits

Kon Knueppel - 17.2 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 3.6 APG, 1.4 SPG, 54/46/92 splits

Jeremiah Fears - 21.6 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 4.6 APG, 1.4 SPG, 42/33/87 splits

Collin Murray-Boyles - 21 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 2.9 APG, 1.6 BPG, 1.3 SPG, 59% FG, 75% FT

Kasparas Jakucionis - 20 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 4.8 APG, 1 SPG, 51/46/89 splits

Khaman Maluach - 10.1 PPG, 8.6 RPG, 1.9 BPG, 73% FG, 93% FT

Derik Queen - 19.4 PPG, 10.7 RPG, 1.1 BPG, 1 SPG, 53% FG, 83% FT
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Best 10 game stretch is obviously a little subjective, but I think you did a great job here, and for me it is pretty informational. Sometimes with young guys it isn't what they can consistently do, but the highest levels that they are able to show, and then gain consistency later.

The things that stick out:

- Ace with 3 stocks per game in that stretch
- Kas with the crazy high production and high shooting splits
- Tre with the highest 10 game scoring stretch

Thanks.
 
I forgot how this worked last year. Do the international guys that are still playing, so weren't able to go to the combine, have a different day that they get measured and tested?
 
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