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Based on what? You say “everything we know” and people regurgitate false statements over and over.
I’ve posted Tre’s offensive analytics compared to others. It’s like a different galaxy. Sorry his rim pressure and rim rate isn’t as good. He’s not god.
 
If you applied Tre fan logic to every prospect then every prospect would look amazing. If every weakness was going to be solved by going to the NBA and isn't actually a weakness because they saw them do it well once, then basically every prospect is Cooper Flagg.
We arent applying it to every prospect. We are applying it to Tre Johnson because Johnson has an elite skill with the size/athletic ability to grow his game.
 
I think it’s quite the opposite. Why are we harping on Tre’s weaknesses and acting like he can’t improve? Let’s do it for every prospect:

People talk about Tre’s playmaking and passing, Ace is way worse. Tre had double the AST% and almost 3x the assists.

Harper’s off the dribble shooting isn’t great at all.

VJ can’t beat players off the dribble and his off the dribble shooting is terrible too. It’s hard to see his offensive role expanding in the league.

I could go on and on. It’s all about projecting with these guys.
We do talk about other player's weaknesses, what are you talking about?

And we should absolutely be able to talk about strengths and weaknesses on a message board.
 
You just cant act like every prospect is going to do what most prospects do. Some will improve and some wont. That's why it's called projecting. Players will be exceptions to the rule and some wont and you have to selectively apply projection to some and not to others.
 
We do talk about other player's weaknesses, what are you talking about?

And we should absolutely be able to talk about strengths and weaknesses on a message board.
Nobody is saying you can’t lol. I think it’s very skewed towards one player more than others.

I would like to see more Ace and VJ discussions as well.
 
I just think Tre will thrive under Hardy.

Clarkson improved a ton on his playmaking/rim pressure under Hardy. It's just he's older and the shotmaking part of his game fell off.
 
Well, Tre said he needs to work on defense and said he was playing through injuries. I think that’s a good start. Whereas Ace says he has no weaknesses.

We should do this with every player. The point of the post you replied to is that we do have to 1) recognize that substantial development is needed 2) analyze how realistic that development is.

I’ve posted Tre’s offensive analytics compared to others. It’s like a different galaxy. Sorry his rim pressure and rim rate isn’t as good. He’s not god.

Ok, but those things don’t exactly address the concerns one may have with Tre. You’re right, he isn’t god. That’s the point we’re making. We talk about the strengths and weaknesses with every player. We are indeed trying to project these players, we’re not trying to be fans defending their honor.
 
You just cant act like every prospect is going to do what most prospects do. Some will improve and some wont. That's why it's called projecting. Players will be exceptions to the rule and some wont and you have to selectively apply projection to some and not to others.
People selectively apply things to prospects they like and unevenly to prospects they don't.

And honestly for a message board it's fine.
 
You guys say we talk about other players weaknesses but we really don’t enough. Like people saying they’re out on Tre… you’re going to be out on everyone with that outlook.
 
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