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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

VJ has no all-star potential, but neither do most guys in this range.

VJ will probably be Jalen Suggs.

VJ lacks the size and shooting to be special given his total lack of shot creation, but is very smart and apparently has strong intangibles and is athletic and is good enough at shooting and big enough to be a starting SG in the NBA. Can he be much more than an average starting SG? Meh.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
The fact that you have Ace 6th minus the top two picks is insane to me.
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A lot of how I like to rate my picks is mental makeup. I do not like the mental make up of Ace. I think he is drinking his own bath water too much. Some has to do with prejudice from skinny wings (still trying to believe in williams)

It will be hard to find a franchise player at 5.
 
kabenac said:
What's interesting is Herro has an awful wingspan (6'3") and Tre has a 6'10" wingspan (which is the same as Clarkson - but Tre is 3" taller than JC). I would bet Tre will be there at 5 though and I'm not complaining. I like how Tre can shoot from anywhere:



If you like numbers here's a really, really good article on Tre that makes me hope he's there at 5: https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/tre-johnson-shooting-up-draft-boards
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Herro averaged 24/5/5 on 47/37/88
If you get that from Tre, it's a home run pick
 
SojoDave said:
I'm 6'4" in socks. When I played high school basketball, no one referred to me as being 6'6". Tre is 6'4", not 6'6".
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Same story every year... either we use in shoes or w/o shoes metrics but we dont switch that from prospect to prospect.

Ace at 6'10 has twice as much air in that number than Tre has when he is referred to as 6'6.

Official combine w/o shoes heights are 6'7.50 and 6'4.75.
 
HermanG said:
Same story every year... either we use in shoes or w/o shoes metrics but we dont switch that from prospect to prospect.

Ace at 6'10 has twice as much air in that number than Tre has when he is referred to as 6'6.

Official combine w/o shoes heights are 6'7.50 and 6'4.75.
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I am of the opinion that we get the measurements without shoes to make sure players arent inflating their height with inserts.

However, the game is played in shoes and it is not unheard of to add 3/4" when playing. Some shoes can add even more. That is why I don't quibble with Tre being listed at 6'6". That is a playing height rounded up of 1/2" or less.

With Acethe best he could claim would be 6'9" and that goes with the same round up.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
VJ has no all-star potential, but neither do most guys in this range.

VJ will probably be Jalen Suggs.

VJ lacks the size and shooting to be special given his total lack of shot creation, but is very smart and apparently has strong intangibles and is athletic and is good enough at shooting and big enough to be a starting SG in the NBA. Can he be much more than an average starting SG? Meh.
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That is such a ridiculous statement. How can you say he has zero all-star potential? That’s just egregious.
 
Does Tre Johnson's finishing concern anyone?

Only 20% of his total attempts came at the rim, 16.7% of his half court attempts were at the rim, and he only scored at a 46% clip on those attempts
 
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