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Watching Traore is bizarre because he's like an exact clone of Dante Exum.

Extreme burst and a good hesitation move, but literally no other ball handling or finishing moves. Just straight-line stuff always with no craft anywhere.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
Watching Traore is bizarre because he's like an exact clone of Dante Exum.

Extreme burst and a good hesitation move, but literally no other ball handling or finishing moves. Just straight-line stuff always with no craft anywhere.
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Aren't hesitation moves part of what people consider craft?

There are also plenty of cross overs, step throughs, pivots, etc. So not sure what you are watching.

He does play a lot of pnr, and will straight line drive (like he should) off of the pick. Maybe that's what you are seeing?

He's certainly not the most advanced ball handler/has the deepest bag of moves, but he's also only 18. I think he's perfectly fine for ball handling at his age.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Aren't hesitation moves part of what people consider craft?

There are also plenty of cross overs, step throughs, pivots, etc. So not sure what you are watching.

He does play a lot of pnr, and will straight line drive (like he should) off of the pick. Maybe that's what you are seeing?

He's certainly not the most advanced ball handler/has the deepest bag of moves, but he's also only 18. I think he's perfectly fine for ball handling at his age.
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I mean, yeah, he has one hesitation move, but that's literally it. No other ball handling or finishing moves that seem even slightly effective.

Which was exactly how Exum played as well which is causing me deju vu.
 
Just watched a bit of Derik Queen... I just... can't... I won't even watch a full game. I just can't do this. I can't think of a reason a team should take him in the top 10 here. He looks like a back to the basket big ...with some skill... but with no great size or athleticism. The thing is... I cannot imagine in 2025-2035 NBA... I would want to give the ball to a player like him to create offense for me. I think ideally I would always have at least 2-3 other players I would prefer initiating my offense. Yes, he has some handle... but is he better handler than like 80% of guards and 50% of wings... No! Yes, he can pull up ... from 2.... but do I want Derik Queen pulling up from 2 for my team? Yes, he can post up a bit... but do I want to run offense through the post in this era of NBA? Hell no, unless you are a generationally skilled player... and he's not that.

Pretty much the only way I can see him being a plus starter is if he develops into offensive hub type of player in the mold of Sengun or Sabonis, but I just am not sure he has THAT type of playmaking and feel for the game.

I think I will have him outside the lottery range on my board.
 
stitches said:
Just watched a bit of Derik Queen... I just... can't... I won't even watch a full game. I just can't do this. I can't think of a reason a team should take him in the top 10 here. He looks like a back to the basket big ...with some skill... but with no great size or athleticism. The thing is... I cannot imagine in 2025-2035 NBA... I would want to give the ball to a player like him to create offense for me. I think ideally I would always have at least 2-3 other players I would prefer initiating my offense. Yes, he has some handle... but is he better handler than like 80% of guards and 50% of wings... No! Yes, he can pull up ... from 2.... but do I want Derik Queen pulling up from 2 for my team? Yes, he can post up a bit... but do I want to run offense through the post in this era of NBA? Hell no, unless you are a generationally skilled player... and he's not that.

Pretty much the only way I can see him being a plus starter is if he develops into offensive hub type of player in the mold of Sengun or Sabonis, but I just am not sure he has THAT type of playmaking and feel for the game.

I think I will have him outside the lottery range on my board.
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Classic, polarizing, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" type. I'm guessing teams have him all over the place.

I generally find myself "out" on about 80% of those guys, the exceptions being those with freakish measurements.
 
I can't believe I still see online chatter about anyone else at #5 besides Johnson, Edgecombe, or Bailey.

There's absolutely 0 chance at #5 the Jazz take an undersized Guard that can't shoot, an unathletic bigman, an injury prone bigman that can't shoot, or the below average athlete.

I'm actually really optimistic about Tre Johnson. I would take him at 3 if I were the Jazz. I'm optimistic he falls to 5 too because I don't think Philly passes on Bailey's potential, and Charlotte needs a 2 way all around player to pair with Ball, Miller, & Bridges, verses another shooter that just wants to score.
 
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