Following Potential 2025 Draftees

[KqWIN]

Thanks for the link. Can you give us a quick and dirty on where they're coming from? Are they stat based, or do they prefer certain types over others? I'm not sure what's quite getting two players I've never heard of to have higher rankings than both gunner types (Ace, Trey, Fears(?)) and 3 & D types (Coward, Powell)

There is an "about this projection" section on the site. That will give more detail than I can. Generally, stat only models (which this appears to be) prefer players with a wide range of indicators even if those indicators don't seem important for their role like rebounds for guards or assists for big men. Some key indicators shared by most models are steals, ast/tov, and 2FG%. Some indicators that don't seem to have great value are USG, raw PPG, raw 3FG%. Every model is different, but those things tend to be shared across stat focused models.

 

[kcgar]

Cmon bird and Pistol are some of the most iconic players ever surely you have an idea? Also come up with another comp for each.

They were iconic for a reason. The more iconic you are the less comps there will be.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

I haven't seen anyone compare him to dirk lol. Or Ak. Bird I can see a little bit he is way more bouncy/explosive.
I been comparing him to LeBron a bit as he seems to be pretty good at everything at such a young age. A phenom

i might as well add fuel to the fire - the reactions/comments have been a lot of fun - but sometime around February, i realized i saw a lot of Luka in Flagg on the offensive end. i think he's a much better passer than a lot of people seem to realize - but will need to tighten up the handle if he's going to be that lead forward in the mold of Luka.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Kon reminds me of a better Brice Sensabaugh

The first person to make the Kon/Sensabauhg comp

 

[KqWIN]

better passing version too. sheesh now that we're comparing to black guys (favorably, i might add!), i'm starting to like the mfer more.

Yeah...if Brice was capable of making the right play every time and be just a little bit smarter on offense he'd be really good. As he is right now, he's still a pretty damn good shooter with some scoring chops. His BBIQ and decision making are some of the worst I've seen though. I'd say Kon is on the other end of spectrum where he's a high IQ player who consistently makes the right decisions.

A smarter Sensabaugh probably looks something like Desmond Bane who is another common comparison.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

It’s interesting that Essengue better in the Eurocup games than the German League. The former is the higher level of competition and it’s not like it’s a shooting variance thing. He only dunks and shoots fts.

Saraf’s performance is more in line with what you’d expect.

how much of that is just a really young player continuing to improve over the course of the season? i have no idea, but it's probably not nothing.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

They were iconic for a reason. The more iconic you are the less comps there will be.

Do Jaren Jackson Jr

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Do Jaren Jackson Jr

Chet Holmgren, that was easy.

 

[KqWIN]

how much of that is just a really young player continuing to improve over the course of the season? i have no idea, but it's probably not nothing.

Eurocup games happen in the same time frane as the domestic leagues. But they did get eliminated in Feb so their Eurocup run ended there.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Essengue's season gets prolonged. It looks like he's going to miss the pre-draft process entirely at this point. Game 5 of the German BBL Finals would be the day after the draft.


View: https://x.com/TheDraftstack/status/1933258324100964728

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Eurocup games happen in the same time frane as the domestic leagues. But they did get eliminated in Feb so their Eurocup run ended there.

thx. for some reason, i read eurocup but thought german league playoffs. because he's been better there than regular season as well.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Tony Jones went on Yossi Gozlan’s podcast just an hour ago.

Things of note:

- The Jazz would trade Lauri Markkanen and Walker Kessler for the right offer. Nobody is untouchable.

- Doesn’t see Utah moving up to 3 just because it’s the same tier as pick 5.

- The Jazz could get a haul from the Lakers for Walker Kessler so doing that coupled with drafting Khaman Maluach would be interesting. (speculation not reporting)

- Best case scenario is one of VJ Edgecombe or Tre Johnson being available 5.

- Utah would likely choose between Ace Bailey, Khaman Maluach, Jeremiah Fears or Kon Knueppel at 5 if both VJ and Tre were gone.

- Jazz are expecting to bring in Ace Bailey, VJ Edgecombe, Khaman Maluach, and Kon Knueppel in for workouts before the draft.