Following Potential 2025 Draftees

[Saint Cy of JFC]

At what point do we start to take into consideration that Rutgers is mediocre at best, despite having the consensus 2nd and 3rd best prospects in the draft?

Not too concerned given they had no history of success prior to them joining and there's no one remotely NBA worthy, even as undrafted player, on the roster.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

This draft is very disappointing compared to what we were sold during preseason.

Ive been weighing that recently to figure out how much of that is how focused I am on the top compared to most years. As a Jazz fan I'm usually not overly focused on the top prospects and instead Im looking at the late lottery players and the sleepers to find a steal. Im just overall less locked in on the late lottery/mid first round guys, I think the big thing is that most of the prospects in that group just dont pop out as having a lot of upside. I also worry that a lot of guys who I like and think have that potential to pop, like a Carter Bryant, might just return to school to get a bigger role and try to be a guaranteed lottery guy in the next draft.

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

This draft is very disappointing compared to what we were sold during preseason.

I think that was more Ainge spinning after failing to get Jrue, Porzingis, PG13, and Bridges and not getting a big return for Markkanen.

"There are five for sure stars in this draft" was something no one should have said, but Ainge needed to justify a tank.

Harper has star potential and Flagg is a likely superstar, but the rest of the guys are just probably role players (like most drafts)

The 11-20 range is very strong, the 6-10 range is fine, but man, the 3-5 range is not good at all.

 

[KqWIN]

I think that was more Ainge spinning after failing to get Jrue, Porzingis, PG13, and Bridges and not getting a big return for Markkanen.

"There are five for sure stars in this draft" was something no one should have said, but Ainge needed to justify a tank.

Harper has star potential and Flagg is a likely superstar, but the rest of the guys are just probably role players (like most drafts)

The 11-20 range is very strong, the 6-10 range is fine, but man, the 3-5 range is not good at all.

I'm not talking about Ainge....media in general was calling this the greatest draft ever. Also, you don't need to justify the tank by looking at the draft. You justify the tank by comparing to the other options and another miserable half tank was not a high bar to clear.

 

[fishonjazz]

View: https://twitter.com/Dreamersmbb/status/1892260536059867420

For added context:
Demin: 10.8 points, 3.6 rebounds, 5.5 assists. 42.2%, 27.6%, 66.7%. 16.5 per. 2.1 Win shares
SGA: 14.4 points, 4.1 rebounds, 5.1 assists. 48.5%, 40.4%, 81.7%. 21.2 per. 5.2 Win shares
Lonzo: 14.6 points, 6.0 rebounds, 7.6 assists. 55.1%, 41.2%, 67.3%. 24.7 per. 6.8 Win shares

 

[idiot]

This draft is very disappointing compared to what we were sold during preseason.

But next year's draft will surely be as good as advertised.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I'll admit to being one of the posters who over hyped this draft. At least I've been consistent in saying that the 2026 draft would be better (there is still time for me to be wrong about that), but I do remember saying that there would be 5-7 all stars from this draft. Right now it's looking more like 2-4 al stars from this draft.

That said, I do think people are being a little over critical of bad games during a season as they happen. We can think back to previous players and remember their pre-NBA careers as a collective, but if you go in to the details you'll find that all of them had occasional bad games.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

For added context:
Demin: 10.8 points, 3.6 rebounds, 5.5 assists. 42.2%, 27.6%, 66.7%. 16.5 per. 2.1 Win shares
SGA: 14.4 points, 4.1 rebounds, 5.1 assists. 48.5%, 40.4%, 81.7%. 21.2 per. 5.2 Win shares
Lonzo: 14.6 points, 6.0 rebounds, 7.6 assists. 55.1%, 41.2%, 67.3%. 24.7 per. 6.8 Win shares

I still like Demin. But yeah... some of these stats that place arbitrary markers will lead to weird results. If the jumper works he becomes really interesting. If the jumper and the handle work its a pretty high ceiling. Right now he is still a gamble I would justify anywhere in the 10-20 range.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I dont think the draft was overhyped. In general, you can only predict the top of the draft quality years out. In that case, the draft is as advertised. There's 3 really high potential prospects, one being one of the best in recent years.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'll admit to being one of the posters who over hyped this draft. At least I've been consistent in saying that the 2026 draft would be better (there is still time for me to be wrong about that), but I do remember saying that there would be 5-7 all stars from this draft. Right now it's looking more like 2-4 al stars from this draft.

That said, I do think people are being a little over critical of bad games during a season as they happen. We can think back to previous players and remember their pre-NBA careers as a collective, but if you go in to the details you'll find that all of them had occasional bad games.

I was getting more bullish on this draft when VJ started to pop off... but then Kas faded. There have been a couple sparkle and fade guys like Fears. i think its a good/solid draft in the top half of the lotto still. I think 2023 is quite a bit better and 2026 should be quite a bit better. Overall the 23-26 window for tanking would be pretty rich but we fumbled the bag in 23.

 

[Qman]

I still like Demin. But yeah... some of these stats that place arbitrary markers will lead to weird results. If the jumper works he becomes really interesting. If the jumper and the handle work its a pretty high ceiling. Right now he is still a gamble I would justify anywhere in the 10-20 range.

I think the handle issues with Demin are more of a strength problem. He just gets knocked off his line. When he can gather without being knocked off, he is a good finisher.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I dont think the draft was overhyped. In general, you can only predict the top of the draft quality years out. In that case, the draft is as advertised. There's 3 really high potential prospects, one being one of the best in recent years.

As long as we land top 5 I feel pretty good we can get a building block. The 7+ range I'm having a hard time finding the guys I like and finding a lot of guys I'm out on.