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Someone talk to me about Tyrese Proctor. Is he a PG? Is there real buzz about him declaring this year? Does he defend?
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I saw this thrown out there somewhere and thought it was interesting:

If the Jazz got the number one pick, would you trade Flagg for Giannis? Pretend salary matching isn't a thing.
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I don't think many NBA teams would. Tells you how stupid lucky getting the #1 pick is (in the right draft). You could likely swap it for like a top 4 player without much question.

Having 5-9 years of team control on a potential all-NBA guy is just so valuable. Especially when the first 4 years are essentially the same salary for one year of Giannis.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Someone talk to me about Tyrese Proctor. Is he a PG? Is there real buzz about him declaring this year? Does he defend?
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I really liked Proctor as a Freshman, and so I'm a little biased. His first two years at Duke he played a lot more on ball with more playmaking responsibilities and he was very inconsistent and overall not efficient. This year Kon and Flagg have taken a lot of the playmaking responsibilities and so he has been playing more off ball and has really thrived in that role. He's a good defender in my opinion, not amazing, but good.

I still like him and think he can be a good NBA player, but it's looking more likely that he'll be a role player vs anything special.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I don't think many NBA teams would. Tells you how stupid lucky getting the #1 pick is (in the right draft). You could likely swap it for like a top 4 player without much question.

Having 5-9 years of team control on a potential all-NBA guy is just so valuable. Especially when the first 4 years are essentially the same salary for one year of Giannis.
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I think it would be very tempting for a team like the Jazz who have never won a title and might be a little bit desperate to get one. There is a good chance that Flagg never becomes as good as Giannis (perrenial MVP candidate). The Jazz are also uniquely positioned with other good players (Lauri specifically) and enough expiring contracts and picks to really go out and build an interesting team around Giannis. Like, I wonder if we could put together a team that could have a 2-3 year window almost immediately.
 
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SoberasHotRod said:
I think it would be very tempting for a team like the Jazz who have never won a title and might be a little bit desperate to get one. There is a good chance that Flagg never becomes as good as Giannis (perrenial MVP candidate). The Jazz are also uniquely positioned with other good players (Lauri specifically) and enough expiring contracts and picks to really go out and build an interesting team around Giannis. Like, I wonder if we could put together a team that could have a 2-3 year window almost immediately.
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It is pretty interesting, and I guess maybe its just my risk aversion (GMs are likely even more risk averse) to saying "let's go for it now and shoot our shot" because when you miss its kinds over. If you could do it by offering the expirings of KJ, JCx2, and #1 pick you have Sexton, Giannis, Lauri, Walker the young guys and likely can use MLE on something good. I wonder if the fact that Bucks don't own their picks would cause them to pass... they are in a tough spot going forward.
 
You also only have a 2 year window so you'd almost have to have the other deals lined up first and do a few things at the same time... you won't be able to slow play it.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I saw this thrown out there somewhere and thought it was interesting:

If the Jazz got the number one pick, would you trade Flagg for Giannis? Pretend salary matching isn't a thing.
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I would not
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I really liked Proctor as a Freshman, and so I'm a little biased. His first two years at Duke he played a lot more on ball with more playmaking responsibilities and he was very inconsistent and overall not efficient. This year Kon and Flagg have taken a lot of the playmaking responsibilities and so he has been playing more off ball and has really thrived in that role. He's a good defender in my opinion, not amazing, but good.

I still like him and think he can be a good NBA player, but it's looking more likely that he'll be a role player vs anything special.
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I think having a bland ~6’ 6” “PG” is maybe a cheat for building a champion (at least if you have some serious talent at other positions). I think a jumbo combo guard comports better with modern basketball, and if the counting stats are unspectacular (but they are solid regarding defense and efficiency) maybe you can keep them around for multiple contracts without breaking the bank.

I for one am somewhat obsessed with the idea of finding a player in this mold - at least/especially if we land a blue-chipper - and it just dawned on me that THE blue chip is already playing with one.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I think it would be very tempting for a team like the Jazz who have never won a title and might be a little bit desperate to get one. There is a good chance that Flagg never becomes as good as Giannis (perrenial MVP candidate). The Jazz are also uniquely positioned with other good players (Lauri specifically) and enough expiring contracts and picks to really go out and build an interesting team around Giannis. Like, I wonder if we could put together a team that could have a 2-3 year window almost immediately.
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This post makes me consider it more.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I think having a bland ~6’ 6” “PG” is maybe a cheat for building a champion (at least if you have some serious talent at other positions). I think a jumbo combo guard comports better with modern basketball, and if the counting stats are unspectacular (but they are solid regarding defense and efficiency) maybe you can keep them around for multiple contracts without breaking the bank.

I for one am somewhat obsessed with the idea of finding a player in this mold - at least/especially if we land a blue-chipper - and it just dawned on me that THE blue chip is already playing with one.
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Any examples of this type of player currently in the NBA?
 
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