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Tre plays the most like Booker/Hero do now….Kon is the most like Booker/Hero in college. What are the chances of Kon being held back by this stacked Duke team?

FWIW, he wasn’t that amazing with Flagg off the court this season.
 
kcgar said:
Absolutely, nothing is a given. I just think that his skillset and size translate extremely well to the NBA. Everything he does wrong is all very fixable. There is nothing that has been said about his personality or attitude that would hinder him from working hard to get better and smarter. To me, his worst attribute is his BBIQ, especially when it comes to the types of shots that he takes. He wants to shoot long twos, while having two players draped on him. Again, I think that is fixable. I think part of the problem is he went from being the main guy and scorer in high school to basically being the same on a terrible team at Rutgers. There wasn't very much coaching going on there. They needed him to do what he did. Also, his defense is above average when he locks in. I would be interested to know what you think his floor is? How many players that played like him (and that size) in college were busts in NBA or at very least worse than Jabari? Honestly, I don't know that answer. I will eat crow if I am wrong.
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I actually kind of agree with almost everything you posted here. I'm not that down on Ace personally, he's definitely a top 6 pick in my opinion.

FWIW, Keandre (Hoop Intellect) has Ace's floor as a a back end of the rotation player
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viP5Z09tTpY


I think Ace would be drafted in the 5-10 range in an average draft. That would give him a 25-40% chance of being a role player or worse based on this website: https://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I actually kind of agree with almost everything you posted here. I'm not that down on Ace personally, he's definitely a top 6 pick in my opinion.

FWIW, Keandre (Hoop Intellect) has Ace's floor as a a back end of the rotation player
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viP5Z09tTpY


I think Ace would be drafted in the 5-10 range in an average draft. That would give him a 25-40% chance of being a role player or worse based on this website: https://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm
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Are u saying this draft is weak?
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I actually kind of agree with almost everything you posted here. I'm not that down on Ace personally, he's definitely a top 6 pick in my opinion.

FWIW, Keandre (Hoop Intellect) has Ace's floor as a a back end of the rotation player
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viP5Z09tTpY


I think Ace would be drafted in the 5-10 range in an average draft. That would give him a 25-40% chance of being a role player or worse based on this website: https://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm
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I think he could go #1 in ~20% of drafts, pretty easily would’ve been #1 last year IMO. No-brainer #1 pick in the late-90’s early 2000’s coming out of high school.

He’s got some major warts but I think most aren’t certain (I think he could become a passable passer but it’s the thing I’m most concerned with improving enough). His ceiling is definitely top-3 in this draft.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I think he could go #1 in ~20% of drafts, pretty easily would’ve been #1 last year IMO. No-brainer #1 pick in the late-90’s early 2000’s coming out of high school.

He’s got some major warts but I think most aren’t certain. His ceiling is definitely top-3 in this draft.
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Last year, yes, probably. He's pretty unimpressive on paper though: https://www.tankathon.com/players/ace-bailey
 
NUMBERICA said:
What he showed at Rutgers was not very good. I think that either means Dylan Harper is overrated or they were really on a bad team with bad coaching.
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Harper was incredible this season. How does Ace being bad indicate that Harper is potentially overrated?
 
KqWIN said:
Harper was incredible this season. How does Ace being bad indicate that Harper is potentially overrated?
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Kinda stupid big picture impact on winning. Besides that their record sucked, both of their BPM kinda sucked also (< 6)*. More advanced numbers in terms of winning impact probably exist that create more differentiation.

Zooming out even further, if Rutgers were the equivalent of South Carolina and GG and kinda just pitched a message of “PLZ JUST COME HERE AND YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT” and followed through on it, I think it changes how you can view both of their seasons in terms of winning impact and development, regardless of what the numbers say right now.

EDIT: I was shooting from the hip and my recollection is they were both hovering around 5 BPM, but Harper is 9.2 which is tight.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Kinda stupid big picture impact on winning. Besides that their record sucked, both of their BPM kinda sucked also (< 6)*. More advanced numbers in terms of winning impact probably exist that create more differentiation.

Zooming out even further, if Rutgers were the equivalent of South Carolina and GG and kinda just pitched a message of “PLZ JUST COME HERE AND YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT” and followed through on it, I think it changes how you can view both of their seasons in terms of winning impact and development, regardless of what the numbers say right now.

EDIT: I was shooting from the hip and my recollection is they were both hovering around 5 BPM, but Harper is 9.2 which is tight.
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I think a bad situation can change how you view a prospect, I just don't know why it would indicate that Ace is better than his production but Harper is overrated when they are on the same team.
 
KqWIN said:
I think a bad situation can change how you view a prospect, I just don't know why it would indicate that Ace is better than his production but Harper is overrated when they are on the same team.
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In the event that their BPM is nearly the same (which it is not and I was mistaken).
 
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