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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

jerick said:
Guys plz take Yang Hansen seriously. He is the hope of our Chinese basketball and gives me visions like Jokic. I think if he’s still available at 43 just take home like a no-brainer. He ruled the CBA and also been good in the draft combine .
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He is going to get drafted. He is too skilled not to get drafted. I like him at 21 and if he is there in the 2nd, like you said, a no-brainer. Where he will actually go will probably hinge on how well he works out with individual teams.
He looked great in the scrimmage games so we will just have to see how the draft process shakes out.
 
When Yang works out with the Jazz, I'm positive he will go 1v1 with Kessler. So if he can get the upper hand against him 1v1, I think he would be a shoe-in for the 21st pick.
 
Basketball Novice said:
When Yang works out with the Jazz, I'm positive he will go 1v1 with Kessler. So if he can get the upper hand against him 1v1, I think he would be a shoe-in for the 21st pick.
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Wow. I heard from Chinese sources that Yang will schedule workouts individually with seven teams including the Jazz. But I wonder if they’d consider a wing or Egor dermin(if available) first. Also the Jazz roster has many centers and PFs, I dunno if they’d chose another one.
 
jerick said:
Wow. I heard from Chinese sources that Yang will schedule workouts individually with seven teams including the Jazz. But I wonder if they’d consider a wing or Egor dermin(if available) first. Also the Jazz roster has many centers and PFs, I dunno if they’d chose another one.
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The Jazz roster is very much in flux right now. No position is set and while wing is the biggest need, everything is a bit of a need. Walker Kessler is the only true center on the roster and while he is a great young defensive big, he is lacking on the offensive end, his extension is coming up and there are questions on whether the front office truly sees him as a centerpiece for the future. They might be looking to trade him. Whether Kessler is the primary starter in the future or not, the Jazz have no true center backup. I see Yang as very much in consideration. But there are alot of other centers in this back half of the 1st, beginning of the 2nd range.

Just to list a few of them: Beringer, Raynaud, Wolf, Sorber, Yang

I might be missing one or 2 as well.

In summation, I am not sure. Yang is one of many options at center and just in general. The Jazz have alot of choices in how they want to approach the draft and Yang is one of those options.

As someone has pointed out, I might be wrong about Kessler matching up with Yang in a workout. I will have to look up the exact rules. Regardless, Yang will have a workout with the Jazz to prove his stuff.
 
Stole this from another message board:

A look at the top 5 prospects:

Height:
6-7.75 - Cooper Flagg
6-7.50 - Ace Bailey
6-4.75 - Tre Johnson
6-4.50 - Dylan Harper
6-4.00 - VJ Edgecombe

Wingspan:
7-0.5 - Ace Bailey
7-0.0 - Cooper Flagg
6-10.5 - Dylan Harper
6-10.25 - Tre Johnson
6-7.5 - VJ Edgecombe

Standing Reach:
8-11.0 - Ace Bailey
8-10.5 - Cooper Flagg
8-6.0 - Dylan Harper
8-5.5 - VJ Edgecombe
8-5.0 - Tre Johnson

Max Vertical:
38.5 - VJ Edgecombe
37.5 - Tre Johnson
36.5 - Dylan Harper
35.5 - Cooper Flagg
34.5 - Ace Bailey
Note: Exact opposite of Wingspan ordering, and nearly the exact opposite of Standing Reach

Max Vertical + Standing Reach:
11-10.0 - Cooper Flagg
11-9.5 - Ace Bailey
11-8.0 - VJ Edgecombe
11-6.5 - Dylan Harper
11-6.5 - Tre Johnson

Lane Agility:
10.49 - Tre Johnson
10.64 - Cooper Flagg
10.97 - Ace Bailey
11.07 - Dylan Harper
11.27 - VJ Edgecombe

3/4 Sprint:
3.12 - Ace Bailey
3.16 - Dylan Harper
3.20 - VJ Edgecombe
3.28 - Tre Johnson
3.39 - Cooper Flagg


Bottom line: Cooper Flagg and Ace Bailey measure almost exactly the same across all of the measurements (Cooper slightly better with some, Ace slightly better with others). Those two being the taller players measured clearly higher with Standing Reach and also Standing Reach + Max Vertical than the guards. Ace had a shorter height than the Rutgers 6'10" listing led people to believe, but he still has good size that everyone likes when looking at Flagg. Additionally, Ace is the fastest of the 5 at the 3/4 Sprint and is better than 2 of the 3 guards at Lane Agility.

All 5 look pretty good to me when it comes to measurables for their positions.
 
KqWIN said:
His handle is a huge question mark for me. Against low level competition, he could get wherever he wanted and he looked dominant attacking the rim and passing out to shooters. But against real competition it looked like he was hanging on for dear life whenever they pressured him. I remember a time or two where he had to be subbed out because he couldn't dribble against the press at all.
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As a lead ball handler, maybe. As it is, I think he’s more of a highly skilled wing. He’s not my point guard if I draft him.
 
It's early, but the chatter is fairly consistent in predicting that Edgecombe is going 3rd or 4th. Etiher Ace or Tre should be expected to make it to 5.

Tony Jones keeps insinuating that the guy he thinks will get to #5 is Ace Bailey.
 
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fishonjazz said:
Stole this from another message board:

A look at the top 5 prospects:

Height:
6-7.75 - Cooper Flagg
6-7.50 - Ace Bailey
6-4.75 - Tre Johnson
6-4.50 - Dylan Harper
6-4.00 - VJ Edgecombe

Wingspan:
7-0.5 - Ace Bailey
7-0.0 - Cooper Flagg
6-10.5 - Dylan Harper
6-10.25 - Tre Johnson
6-7.5 - VJ Edgecombe

Standing Reach:
8-11.0 - Ace Bailey
8-10.5 - Cooper Flagg
8-6.0 - Dylan Harper
8-5.5 - VJ Edgecombe
8-5.0 - Tre Johnson

Max Vertical:
38.5 - VJ Edgecombe
37.5 - Tre Johnson
36.5 - Dylan Harper
35.5 - Cooper Flagg
34.5 - Ace Bailey
Note: Exact opposite of Wingspan ordering, and nearly the exact opposite of Standing Reach

Max Vertical + Standing Reach:
11-10.0 - Cooper Flagg
11-9.5 - Ace Bailey
11-8.0 - VJ Edgecombe
11-6.5 - Dylan Harper
11-6.5 - Tre Johnson

Lane Agility:
10.49 - Tre Johnson
10.64 - Cooper Flagg
10.97 - Ace Bailey
11.07 - Dylan Harper
11.27 - VJ Edgecombe

3/4 Sprint:
3.12 - Ace Bailey
3.16 - Dylan Harper
3.20 - VJ Edgecombe
3.28 - Tre Johnson
3.39 - Cooper Flagg


Bottom line: Cooper Flagg and Ace Bailey measure almost exactly the same across all of the measurements (Cooper slightly better with some, Ace slightly better with others). Those two being the taller players measured clearly higher with Standing Reach and also Standing Reach + Max Vertical than the guards. Ace had a shorter height than the Rutgers 6'10" listing led people to believe, but he still has good size that everyone likes when looking at Flagg. Additionally, Ace is the fastest of the 5 at the 3/4 Sprint and is better than 2 of the 3 guards at Lane Agility.

All 5 look pretty good to me when it comes to measurables for their positions.
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I know conventions are hard to change, but I think I'd prefer verticals to be measured in how high a player can touch. I think something like 11'7" would tell us more about the impact a player might have than 35".
 
Does Ace Bailey remind anyone of Cam Whitmore? Definitively a top 3 pick based on all metrics but GMs rumored to not love something about Whitmore and then he free fell.

I dont know if it is the same situation but some of the Mefirstandthegimmiegimmies comments from Ace plus the GM comments give me that vibe.
 
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