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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

You can't be that guy who simultaneously ***** on every draft pick but also **** on an actual player when comparing his value to a draft pick.

Compare Brice to the guys we can expect to draft from 42 to 53, then you can say he is worth that much.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
Limited upside, limited tools, rough injury history, just abysmal defense, failed to establish himself as a starter on a 17 win team in his second year, constantly called out by his coach, was drafted 28th overall in the first place.... I would guess mid second round is his value.
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I don't know, the shooting is quite nice. There were a couple of games where he was making every shot. The IQ is questionable but the shooting is legitimately great. I would want to give him more minutes/shots next year to see if it all comes together or if he could at least maintain his current efficiency.

That is worth more than a mid to late 2nd. Remember we got 5 seconds from end of roster guys Eubanks and Mills.
 
Basketball Novice said:
I don't know, the shooting is quite nice. There were a couple of games where he was making every shot. The IQ is questionable but the shooting is legitimately great. I would want to give him more minutes/shots next year to see if it all comes together or if he could at least maintain his current efficiency.

That is worth more than a mid to late 2nd. Remember we got 5 seconds from end of roster guys Eubanks and Mills.
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Those trades were more about taking in salary so other trades could work than Eubanks and Mills in particular.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
Those trades were more about taking in salary so other trades could work than Eubanks and Mills in particular.
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You are correct but then why should we value Brice as a mid 2nd if we can magic up 2nds from thin air/opportunity. Brice has a chance to develop into a real player with impact. We don't need to sell our guys short here even if they leave us wanting more.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
biggest red flags on Coward (i'll admit i've bought in, but these things give me pause) are an inability to get to the FT line in the big sky (less than 3 FTA/gm) and the alarmingly low number of dunks (i think Cy mentioned only 13 dunks) in the Big Sky for a 20 yo.
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Wouldn't that have been his age 20 season? Either way... at 21 its a no brainer for me. Stock numbers are good. Rebounds are good. I think he's a good athlete and just a huge wing.

I listened to his interview with KOC. The guy is a development staff dream. Humble and understands how to work. His Grandpa was actually a gold medalist in the 4x100 relay. He seems to understand he was working but not putting in NBA work and that is where his improvement has come from. I think he is gone by 21 but would do cartwheels if we took him there.

It is a bit of a gamble and obviously wish he played more than 6 games this year.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
biggest red flags on Coward (i'll admit i've bought in, but these things give me pause) are an inability to get to the FT line in the big sky (less than 3 FTA/gm) and the alarmingly low number of dunks (i think Cy mentioned only 13 dunks) in the Big Sky for a 20 yo.
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This is a good point, but he does have a career FTr of 36.6, so that's a good sign. He's also extremely efficient from 2 and especially at the rim. I have bigger concerns when both the FTr and Rim rate are low. If it's one or the other, I think it still shows ability to get to/score at the rim.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Wouldn't that have been his age 20 season? Either way... at 21 its a no brainer for me. Stock numbers are good. Rebounds are good. I think he's a good athlete and just a huge wing.

I listened to his interview with KOC. The guy is a development staff dream. Humble and understands how to work. His Grandpa was actually a gold medalist in the 4x100 relay. He seems to understand he was working but not putting in NBA work and that is where his improvement has come from. I think he is gone by 21 but would do cartwheels if we took him there.

It is a bit of a gamble and obviously wish he played more than 6 games this year.
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i edited to 20. but you're preaching to the choir. i'm just trying to be realistic and objective despite the fact that i love the dude as a prospect. the career 70% TS along with the elite length and athleticism has me salivating regardless of what league he played in.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
i edited to 20. but you're preaching to the choir. i'm just trying to be realistic and objective despite the fact that i love the dude as a prospect. the career 70% TS along with the elite length and athleticism has me salivating regardless of what league he played in.
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Guys with his shooting and measurables generally aren't available outside the lotto. His backstory kind of makes sense to me in that he wasn't big on the AAU scene and took a break from basketball because he didn't like the situation he was in. Also isn't entitled in thinking he got overlooked he was like "I had to work harder than I was and I wasn't good enough". I just think whatever type of basketball player he can become on the high side... he will become because I think he gets it.

Anyone unfamiliar should listen to the KOC interview. He's self aware, mature, genuine.
 
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