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This is where I am at today. I only went as far as I care about. If I didn't name them, I am ambivalent on them as of today.

-Flagg
-Harper
-Essengue
-VJ
-Tre
-Kon
-Fleming
-Ace
-Fears
-CMB
-Penda
-Egor
-Jace
-Yang
-Thiero
-Clayton Jr
-Traore
-Coward
-Wolf
 
This is where I am at today. I only went as far as I care about. If I didn't name them, I am ambivalent on them as of today.

-Flagg
-Harper
-Essengue
-VJ
-Tre
-Kon
-Fleming
-Ace
-Fears
-CMB
-Penda
-Egor
-Jace
-Yang
-Thiero
-Clayton Jr
-Traore
-Coward
-Wolf
Very solid board. Only thing I can’t really see is Fleming over Ace tbh.
 
How does adjusting for SOS work?

I'm not 100% sure which is why I posted the raw numbers first.

I believe they are calculating the offensive and defensive efficiency of the lineups you play against and averaging them out. It makes sense for a guy like Boogie Fland who played mostly against non conference teams, and then his team played the majority of their SEC schedule without him. His On/Off looks amazing, but the adjusted On/Off looks closer to what you would expect. For a guy like Tre Johnson, who was healthy the whole year, I don't understand how the level of competition he faces was so much more difficult with him on the court than with him off the court.
 
I'm not 100% sure which is why I posted the raw numbers first.

I believe they are calculating the offensive and defensive efficiency of the lineups you play against and averaging them out. It makes sense for a guy like Boogie Fland who played mostly against non conference teams, and then his team played the majority of their SEC schedule without him. His On/Off looks amazing, but the adjusted On/Off looks closer to what you would expect. For a guy like Tre Johnson, who was healthy the whole year, I don't understand how the level of competition he faces was so much more difficult with him on the court than with him off the court.

They calculate a weighted average based on the lineups played against. Tre played nearly every minute except during games against weaker opponents, so the strength of schedule (SOS) for the minutes he actually played is very high. In contrast, the SOS during the minutes he sat is much lower, since those minutes mostly came against weaker competition. The analysis is granular to the minute level, not just at the game level.
 
I mean, the board is staying pretty consistent, Im just moving individuals up/down as I look at certain players that I overlooked due to preconceived bias.

For Riley, like I said earlier with Illinois, I watched them a lot early and barely at all in the last few months. I just think he has more upside than most non-lottery guys due to his size/handle/shot creation upside.

Essnegue is probably the next guy I will give a somewhat significant bump to.

I think it's just that you have such strong takes that when you change your mind it feels like a huge shift. A couple hundred posts ago I said something about looking at Riley film and thinking he had a nice all around game and you made a negative comment about him. You were one of the original Kas glazers and now you have him outside your top 20. When you were on HH and Elizah's pod you had VJ at 3 and now have him lower than most.

And don't get me wrong, there is nothing bad or wrong about your approach. I like it and appreciate it. I like your strong takes. I like your ability to change your mind when new evidence is there. But this is what I mean by rollercoaster.
 
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They calculate a weighted average based on the lineups played against. Tre played nearly every minute except during games against weaker opponents, so the strength of schedule (SOS) for the minutes he actually played is very high. In contrast, the SOS during the minutes he sat is much lower, since those minutes mostly came against weaker competition. The analysis is granular to the minute level, not just at the game level.
Thanks, I get it now. Basically his off numbers are mostly worthless since it is primarily garbage time.
 
It's absolutely nuts how much better Locked On Hornets is than every other Locked On podcast. Incredible production quality and great voices for radio compared to the others I've seen and the guys seem fairly intelligent and reasonable.
 
You could say this got me in trouble with Shep last year (I still believe!), but Kon's numbers without Flagg are pretty promising. SSS of course, but he maintains a really high scoring efficiency and his AST/TOV becomes elite. At the very least, it's what you'd want to see if you were hoping to see him scale up.
 
In the same way that some of Tre's/Ace's mid range highlights double as lowlights, some of Kon's rim finishing makes could double as lowlights.
 
You could say this got me in trouble with Shep last year (I still believe!), but Kon's numbers without Flagg are pretty promising. SSS of course, but he maintains a really high scoring efficiency and his AST/TOV becomes elite. At the very least, it's what you'd want to see if you were hoping to see him scale up.

I mean, OK, but Kon was still playing with a ton of NBA players when Flagg was off the court.

Maluach is one of the biggest humans to ever live and he was setting screens that were sending future middle management to the floor for Kon and then Kon gets a free lane while surrounded by tons of elite shooters.

Very hard to evaluate since he had so much talent around him (giving him few opportunities but no defensive pressure) and such a bad coach.
 
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