Following Potential 2025 Draftees

[bigmike]

DL has him #1 on his big board.

And those FINGERPADS

 

[Basketball Novice]

View: https://youtu.be/SUyEql_aCKE?si=bV6MIEfplCxGF3ma


Just watched this locked on jazz episode with Lief filling in for Locke. Watching the first ten minutes makes me wondering if Tre is being overlooked says Tre has better athletic traits than Ace. Might be able to play pg. on and off ball. Been a five star prospect his whole life but gets less attention than Ace and VJ. Life says he’d take Tre over Ace at either 3 or 5.

Well, Tre tested to have near VJ levels of athleticism in many of the tests. Frankly, it surprised me as I would judge him to be an average athlete according to the tape. I don't quite know what to make of it. He might have room to improve using his athletic trats that have been underutilized or he might just be a workout warrior type.

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

Well, Tre tested to have near VJ levels of athleticism in many of the tests. Frankly, it surprised me as I would judge him to be an average athlete according to the tape. I don't quite know what to make of it. He might have room to improve using his athletic trats that have been underutilized or he might just be a workout warrior type.

Gobert tested as one of the ten worst athletes in NBA combine history while Harrison Barnes tested as one of the five best athletes in NBA combine history.

Tre not getting steals, rebounds, blocks, free throws, or paint touches is probably a better descriptor of his physical tools. He's like Herro in having very limited tools practically.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Well, Tre tested to have near VJ levels of athleticism in many of the tests. Frankly, it surprised me as I would judge him to be an average athlete according to the tape. I don't quite know what to make of it. He might have room to improve using his athletic trats that have been underutilized or he might just be a workout warrior type.

Take a couple inches off the vert... he sandbagged his standing reach. He looks and moves like a good athlete though, but it doesn't manifest on the court really in anything you typically see like stocks, rebounds, rim attempts, defense etc.

Maybe he unlocks something and that stuff comes but there is a reason the analytical world clings to certain things like stocks/activity stats quite a bit.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Take a couple inches off the vert... he sandbagged his standing reach. He looks and moves like a good athlete though, but it doesn't manifest on the court really in anything you typically see like stocks, rebounds, rim attempts, defense etc.

Maybe he unlocks something and that stuff comes but there is a reason the analytical world clings to certain things like stocks/activity stats quite a bit.

I dont think he sandbagged his reach at all. If you watch the video of him, Ace, and Harper dunking, it's clear he has a massive vertical. He just isnt quick off the floor. I dont foresee him being some incredible downhill rim attacking athlete, but maybe he can be utilized off-ball at the rim for the occasional lob.

 

[stitches]

Free throw rates(in college) by some of the players being mentioned here:
- Tre Johnson .265
- Tyler Herro .235
- Jamal Murray .285
- Cam Thomas .440
- SGA .464

SGA was not the monster he is now in college, but as you can see even in his college stats you can see a certain level of aggression and foul drawing ability.

 

[stitches]

Is this stat for Essengue correct? I was checking other top prospects' FTRate and the thing I'm looking at says... .800!!! Is this true? How?

 

[KqWIN]

It's so weird we live in this bubble on JFC Draft where Tre never draws fouls at all.

He drew fouls at a very decent rate.

Again, compared to what. You can very easily counter this argument. Just say what decent means here.

 

[KqWIN]

Is this stat for Essengue correct? I was checking other top prospects' FTRate and the thing I'm looking at says... .800!!! Is this true? How?

It’s ridiculous, but true! I watched like 4-5 condensed games and every point was pretty much a dunk or Ft.

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

Is this stat for Essengue correct? I was checking other top prospects' FTRate and the thing I'm looking at says... .800!!! Is this true? How?

Yeah, some of his stats are stupid good, lol.

He and Newell are the guys who put up pretty huge numbers, but you just hate the way they put up numbers (as undersized centers basically)

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Also thanks for proving my point.

Again, I really don't understand how your brain works.

I wasn't trying to prove any point, I was just having a conversation.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I dont think he sandbagged his reach at all. If you watch the video of him, Ace, and Harper dunking, it's clear he has a massive vertical. He just isnt quick off the floor. I dont foresee him being some incredible downhill rim attacking athlete, but maybe he can be utilized off-ball at the rim for the occasional lob.

lol... Tre standing reach is 8'5" height 6'4.75" and wingspan 6' 10.25.

Kon standing reach 8'5.5" height 6'5" and wingspan 6'6.25"

Its just math. Myles Byrd with almost identical measurements (slightly smaller wingspan) came in 1.5" higher in standing reach.

He still has a good vert... but for comparison to others historically... go ahead and take an inch or two off it.