Following Potential 2025 Draftees

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Ironically rebounds have been a pretty neat hidden "metric" for guards. A ton of undervalued guards/wings in college/the draft, who went to have great NBA careers have had very high rebound rates.

Tre's rebounding numbers looking so subpar is mostly due to him never offensive rebounding, which is likely by design

 

[KqWIN]

Truthfully I don't really care how much my guards rebound, except that it has been shown to be a positive indicator of NBA success and points to some functional athleticism. I also don't think that Tre is a bad passer and I think he will be fine and with some coaching could even be good.

That was pretty much my point with my original post. Tre's other stuff isn't so bad that I worry about him not being a good NBA player, but if he is going to be a star NBA player he needs to improve in some of those other areas.

Rebounds matter to me, but even if they don't, I think you should be able to call a spade a spade and admit that they are low. Same goes with Tre's other stats. Like I said before, I don't think Tre needs stan behavior to be considered a good prospect. He's good enough where we don't have to treat him like this special snowflake where any kind of pushback must be dismissed because of his role, team, schedule, etc.

I like Kas a lot....but I won't pretend like his steal rate is high and make the most ridiculous excuses for it. I'm OK with identifying some flaws in a player I like.

 

[KqWIN]

Tre's rebounding numbers looking so subpar is mostly due to him never offensive rebounding, which is likely by design

The only tankathon top60 NCAA prospect with worse defensive rebounding is Ryan Nembhard.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Rebounds matter to me, but even if they don't, I think you should be able to call a spade a spade and admit that they are low. Same goes with Tre's other stats. Like I said before, I don't think Tre needs stan behavior to be considered a good prospect. He's good enough where we don't have to treat him like this special snowflake where any kind of pushback must be dismissed because of his role, team, schedule, etc.

I like Kas a lot....but I won't pretend like his steal rate is high and make the most ridiculous excuses for it. I'm OK with identifying some flaws in a player I like.

Call a spade a spade, but rebounding numbers are some of the most contextual numbers there are and the people looking to fade Tre aren't providing any additional context outside of raw per game #s

 

[KqWIN]

Call a spade a spade, but rebounding numbers are some of the most contextual numbers there are and the people looking to fade Tre aren't providing any additional context outside of raw per game #s

Not really more contextual than anything else. Fact is, he's at the very bottom and we can make these excuses for anyone. Tre is not a special snowflake where context only applies to him and nobody else. Every time you try to contextualize something about Tre that doesn't paint him in a perfect light, it just doesn't matter to the stans.

There is no other player for which we spend more time making excuses for. And I'll say it again, he doesn't need it! He's a great prospect despite his flaws.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Tre averaged 3.5 RPG and 3.1 APG in conference play. 19.3 AST% and 11.3 DRB%.

To go along with 20.4 PPG. He upped his play in conference.

 

[slc]

Maybe Tre has the mentality It's not my job to rebound It's my job to score
If so he needs to change that

 

[Megadoo1]

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[Megadoo1]

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Maybe Tre has the mentality It's not my job to rebound It's my job to score
If so he needs to change that

His defensive rebounding rate is about as average you get for a guard. The issue is .3 offensive rebounds per game. Usually that means it was a team philosophy.

 

[KqWIN]

His defensive rebounding rate is about as average you get for a guard. The issue is .3 offensive rebounds per game. Usually that means it was a team philosophy.

This is what I'm talking about. It's not average at all. You can count the number of players whose defensive rebounding rate is lower than in this draft class his with one hand. How is that average?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It isn't just the rebounding... its the rebounding combined with the low stocks that gives the concerns. He seems to have size and athleticism to do more but isn't... make of that what you want. All the guys have warts... I promise its okay to call a wart a wart.