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Following Potential 2026 Draftees

Maybe it's just that I've taken the draft twitter pill...but does anyone else think that the national media draft guys stink? Guys like Vecenie, Mann, Wasserman etc.....When they have reporting I respect it, but I value their draft opinions so little and rarely feel like I've had a good takeaway from their process.
 
fishonjazz said:
I would take 5th if offered today.
Would be sad to not get AJ but would still likely get a really nice piece to add to the core of the team for the future.
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Meh, the 5th place team has a 40% chance of a top 4 pick compared to the 50% chance we had last year. Not greatly different. Karma is better as well.
 
KqWIN said:
Maybe it's just that I've taken the draft twitter pill...but does anyone else think that the national media draft guys stink? Guys like Vecenie, Mann, Wasserman etc.....When they have reporting I respect it, but I value their draft opinions so little and rarely feel like I've had a good takeaway from their process.
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I think the No Ceilings guys do solid work overall. I paid especially close attention during the Wemby draft year, and I remember Vecenie being very low on Keyonte while extremely high on Scoot, though to be fair, that was pretty much the consensus at the time, and Keyonte was a polarizing prospect. He was also very high on Whitmore.

It doesn’t really bother me that Vecenie was wrong on some of that cuz misses happen and that’s part of the job. What stands out to me more is that I don’t really hear him give Keyonte much credit now, even as I do hear him continue to express doubts. That may have been fair the past couple of seasons, but at this point I’d like to hear something more balanced or at least one clear positive. Meanwhile, he still seems quite optimistic about Scoot and Whitmore.

I get that credibility matters a lot in this space and that they’re protecting their process, so I understand why people are careful. I just think it’s reasonable to expect some acknowledgement when a player starts to outperform earlier evaluations.

No ceilings guys are fun because they’re just super bullish and envision how guys can be effective in the league. Just a different approach but I find it more enjoyable, granted fewer receipts.
 
rippimpc said:
I think the No Ceilings guys do solid work overall. I paid especially close attention during the Wemby draft year, and I remember Vecenie being very low on Keyonte while extremely high on Scoot, though to be fair, that was pretty much the consensus at the time, and Keyonte was a polarizing prospect. He was also very high on Whitmore.

It doesn’t really bother me that Vecenie was wrong on some of that cuz misses happen and that’s part of the job. What stands out to me more is that I don’t really hear him give Keyonte much credit now, even as I do hear him continue to express doubts. That may have been fair the past couple of seasons, but at this point I’d like to hear something more balanced or at least one clear positive. Meanwhile, he still seems quite optimistic about Scoot and Whitmore.

I get that credibility matters a lot in this space and that they’re protecting their process, so I understand why people are careful. I just think it’s reasonable to expect some acknowledgement when a player starts to outperform earlier evaluations.

No ceilings guys are fun because they’re just super bullish and envision how guys can be effective in the league. Just a different approach but I find it more enjoyable, granted fewer receipts.
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Being right or wrong about Key or any other player isn't why I think they're bad. I think their process is so dry and all they really do is force players into traditional draft narratives. They never say anything interesting or insightful. I feel like the national media guys are plain white bread because they don't want to embarrass themselves by veering from consensus, they want to keep their access to players and agents, and they're just not interesting in the first place. There's a handful of twitter uses out there who seem to be overconfident teenagers, and yet they offer a perspective that's more interesting (even if I don't agree with their takes).

An example of a guy I miss is Dean Demakis. That guy was bat **** insane. But he at least showed a unique perspective and consistent thought process that was not tied to mainstream narratives.
 
AJ with a 33 point triple double. 11-13 from the field
 
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