Following Potential Draftees - 2019 (not kidding)

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by Dr. Jones, May 5, 2015.

  1. SCS

    SCS Well-Known Member

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    This is more of a big board than a mock tbh.
     
  2. Lord Bullingdon

    Lord Bullingdon Well-Known Member

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    and why is that?

    u think because everyone knows the Lakers are gonna take Lonzo Ball 2nd that u should have him mocked there over De'Aaron Fox??? I dont...
     
  3. Lord Bullingdon

    Lord Bullingdon Well-Known Member

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    idk how ppl get so ****in sanctimonious over something called a mock... it's a mockery isnt it??
     
  4. just because

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    I would not be disappointed if jazz took Samanic. He looks pretty athletic and can shoot. His size is a plus. (This info coming of course by two 5 min youtube clips)
     
  5. checkbookdoc

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    If Matisse Thybulle is available and we pass on him I will be disappointed.

    Also, Olynyk could be really good on our team so I would be happy to take him and a draft pick from Miami.
     
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  6. NUMBERICA

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    I’m not sure what you’re mad about. I guess I understand why you’d be embarrassed that you don’t know what a mock draft is.
     
  7. Lord Bullingdon

    Lord Bullingdon Well-Known Member

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    What is a mock? what is a mockery? what is a mock draft as defined by mirriam-webster? go! you seem to have this top-secret coca-cola style formula... but is it really a formula? or is it yet another case of someone trying to hold their personal bias like its some prevailing wisdom??

    You've voiced your displeasure twice but cite no evidence as to what disqualifies this from your personal qualifications for a mock. Doesn't sound like much of a debunking at all... More like (surprise!) another exercise in voyeurism.

    Talking with people these days, mostly is talking with them about their conditions...

    Whos to even say that your conditions match with the rationale i placed on who's where and why? awfully presumptuous.

    It's not close enough to the consensus for your personal tastes is it? You prefer the status quo mocks and say mines distorted? I say the opposite....
     
  8. Hekate

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    Concern is that he is inconsistent and didn't really put much effort on defense which could be because he was on a bad team that wouldn't go anywhere. His comments after the workout are promising, though, if he really is a passable 1 through 4 defender, he is going to be a steal.
     
  9. Hekate

    Hekate Well-Known Member

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    Mock also means to imitate. Words have more than one meaning. When people say mock draft, it means that this is how the draft should go, taking into consideration everything, including Lavar Ball. Yours is a big board because, it's based on the talent and potential level of the players.

    Hope this helps you not being so ****ing insecure next time.
     
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  10. Saint Cy of JFC

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  11. Wes Mantooth

    Wes Mantooth Well-Known Member

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    Can Olynyk defend anyone? I like his shooting numbers quite a bit. And his rebounding numbers concern me.
     
  12. Udidthizz

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    For what it’s worth, I enjoyed going through your list.
     
  13. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    Yall aint tired of his shtick yet?
     
  14. SCS

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    This. A mock is what you think the teams will actually do. A big board is your personal opinion of each prospect. His mock was based on his personal opinions of each prospect. So it felt more like a big board to me. That's all I was saying. Idk why he got defensive.
     
  15. zyzz

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    Wonder how much higher Carsen Edwards would be mocked if he was 6'2" with the exact same wingspan and standing reach he has now. Wonder if people are scared off solely from his sub 6'0" height without shoes. Was in the 95th percentile in off the dribble jumpers as a soph (can't find the numbers for last year). Shooting 3s off the dribble is so valuable now.

    Edwards shot 36.4% from NBA 3 on 313 attempts, and 47.4% of his 3s were assisted.
    For comparison, Tyler Herro shot 31.8% on NBA 3s on 113 attempts, and 81.7% of his 3s were assisted.
    Ty Jerome: 40.6% on NBA 3s on 138 attempts, and 68.4% of his 3s were assisted.
    Dylan Windler: 47.8% on NBA 3s on 23 attempts, and 88% of his 3s were assisted.
    Cameron Johnson: 46.3% on NBA 3s on 162 attempts and 92.7% of his 3s were assisted.
     
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  16. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    I kind of like Edwards but is he going to be significantly better than Shabazz Napier? He could be, but sometimes these guys that have such a high usage in college can't adjust in the NBA when they are a role player.

    For as much as people have crapped on this draft there are a lot of guys in our range I like... I know it was more about the lotto being weak after the top 3 but you can make a good case for a lot of these dudes. I think we can find something useful.
     
  17. LoPo

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    Carsen Edwards should be the pick. 6 foot, 6'6" wingspan, solid 200 pounds.

    Can create, great shooter.

    Sent from my VS995 using JazzFanz mobile app
     
  18. Udidthizz

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    I’m sorry, but I don’t see a Jazz player in Edwards. He’s a SG in a (small) PG’s body. He’s inefficient, can’t create for others and is a liability on defense. I’d rather have Ty Jerome despite his shortcomings.
    Ofcourse my opinion means he’ll probably turn out the next Lou Williams...
     
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  19. Jazz4ever

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    I do put some faith in that stat. Any chance you can look up Trey Burke's percentage of assisted 3s in college?
     
  20. zyzz

    zyzz Well-Known Member

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    54.4% freshman year, 48.7% soph year.
     

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