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For everyone interested in knowing Enes better in terms of basketball (except nike summits)

Curious how Kanter is unproven, although he has played with/against professionals (albeit euros) and it's not like the Summit game didn't happen .. vs. a kid is proven because he played with/against amatures in the Pac-gazillion. Weird.

Nike Hoop Summit game is more of an All-Star game with individual players trying to get their name out on the draft scene, it worked for Kanter.
 
and i think proven is a strong word. Noone in this draft is proven, we will wait and see. Irving didnt play whole year, can we say he is proven? but he will be 1st pick. What im trying to say is, Enes is worth taking a risk if we wanna be a contender. Picking Derrick williams will not take us forward or back . He can be a solid starter but nothing more. But enes can eventually become another nowitzki if he fulfills his potential. I hope u got my point

Irving came into college and dominated when he did play, more than we can say for Kanter. So yes, he is more proven than Kanter, and again, he is more willingly to do workouts than Kanter is.
 
why are u so biased against kanter? cauz he is a euro?

and as u see in the video, he isnt scoring with his phsycal dominance, most points are footwork or skill

On other threads you can clearly see me hyping Biyombo (yes he is not a Euro, but he is a foreign player who plays in the EURO leagues) and Jonas.
 
Does anyone know why Kanter was declared ineligible at Kentucky?

He was paid as a professional. Chump change in the form of amenities ($30k in hotel rooms, per diems, travel cost, etc) necessary to survive, basically, if I remember right.
 
He was paid as a professional. Chump change in the form of amenities ($30k in hotel rooms, per diems, travel cost, etc) necessary to survive, basically, if I remember right.

His dad is actually a stem cell research doctor, which makes it even funnier/sadder.
 
williams is more related to phsycal dominance than enes. He dominated college kids but he will crash in nba. How will he guard carmelo, durant, lebron, deng, pierce and much more?

Why will D-will2 crash in the NBA?

How bout how will Enes guard Pau, Dirk, Howard, Horford, Griffin and much more?
 
If this wasn't such a weak draft, Kanter would probably go #7-10. All the videos I see of him, he looks slow, unathletic, and kinda clumsy. He's a bigger risk than Brandon Knight IMO...
 
And how will that white guy named Hayward with questionable lateral quickness ever defend a scorer like Kobe?

The guys evaluating draft picks have forgotten more about basketball than most of us will ever know...and they still make huge mistakes. The draft is a crap shoot. The only certainty is that the hardest working players usually have pertty good careers (Millsap, Matthews, etc.). So when in doubt, I'd take the guy who is giving 100% in all his workouts. Snyder and Humphries had great potential; look where that got the Jazz. Same with Fes, but no work ethic.

That's one of the reasons I'd take a serious look at Singletion at #12. It takes effort and attitude to play defense. Most guys only want to score and make the highlights.
 
Everyone who is complaining they dont know anythng about Enes, at least take ur time and check the links i provided, u can find them easily in net but i made ur job easier. I hope this makes things little bit more clear

Thanks




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk66SyQzTJo

(he was only 15-16 in this video competing with guys 17-18 yrs old in U18 european champ.)


https://www.fibaeurope-u18men.com/e...B03C-54B460890F45}&season=2009&playerID=61806

(his avg stats in all four u16-18 european champs. he played, career highs etc.)

https://mindofmullin.blogspot.com/2008/08/prospect-watch-enes-kanter.html

(read about him if you arent bored)

https://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/p...ropean_Championship_Men_DIVISION_A/index.html

(He was 16 when he was dominating best young europeans in u18 european championship, and please focus on rebounds. The lithuania games(written as LTU) he played vs Valanciunas which is actually is a top 10 projected pick this year, and Serbia (SRB) vs Dejan Musli, one of the best players in europe in his age )

Nope wont waste my time he is complete crAp. Also drafting him would mean more of you and quite frankly i have had enough.
 
And how will that white guy named Hayward with questionable lateral quickness ever defend a scorer like Kobe?

The guys evaluating draft picks have forgotten more about basketball than most of us will ever know...and they still make huge mistakes. The draft is a crap shoot. The only certainty is that the hardest working players usually have pertty good careers (Millsap, Matthews, etc.). So when in doubt, I'd take the guy who is giving 100% in all his workouts. Snyder and Humphries had great potential; look where that got the Jazz. Same with Fes, but no work ethic.

That's one of the reasons I'd take a serious look at Singletion at #12. It takes effort and attitude to play defense. Most guys only want to score and make the highlights.

Some great points here GlassEater. I wouldn't be sad at all to get Singleton at 12. And you point about working hard is a good one. Knight is known to have an incredible work ethic. It's still not known if Kanter is in the Milsap work hard or the Fes work hard camp. (those are the extreem examples of course)
 
Because I think he is unproven. I don't see how he fits in with the Jazz. I think Brandon Knight and Derrick Williams are both better picks (both fit and talent wise) at 3 and one of them will be there for sure.

Good point.

So what exactly has Knight proven?

I think if anything, Knight's freshmen year in college provided us with more doubts and concerns than answers and confidence.

He still lacks PG skills, quickness, and good shot selection. Lets NOT just draft an athlete and hope he ends up being the PG we need. He's a lot less Rose and DWill and a lot more Larry Hughes/Monta Ellis.

No thanks!
 
Some great points here GlassEater. I wouldn't be sad at all to get Singleton at 12. And you point about working hard is a good one. Knight is known to have an incredible work ethic. It's still not known if Kanter is in the Milsap work hard or the Fes work hard camp. (those are the extreem examples of course)

Because players develop solid post games and beautiful jump shots by eating donuts?

You people are dumbasses if you think Kanter is lazy.

Whether or not his game and athleticism translates in the NBA remains to be seen. But c'mon guys, Kanter didn't develop this incredible offensive game by just jackpotting around.
 
Why will D-will2 crash in the NBA?

How bout how will Enes guard Pau, Dirk, Howard, Horford, Griffin and much more?

i cant see any problem him guarding them .At least he has the fundamentals and phsyic to do that. Not everyone is supposed to be athletic like dwight howard to be a decent defender.

its my opinion that williams will crash. I dont know of any good player playing SF with his body type. He can be a good player, maybe he can be an allstar. but come on, he isnt that good. I wouldnt even compare him with enes and irving in terms of ceiling
 
Some great points here GlassEater. I wouldn't be sad at all to get Singleton at 12. And you point about working hard is a good one. Knight is known to have an incredible work ethic. It's still not known if Kanter is in the Milsap work hard or the Fes work hard camp. (those are the extreem examples of course)

i think he is in the millsap work hard

if u ask why, i tell u ;

if a guy rejected a really astronomical deal at the age of 16, (which would attach him to Fenerbahce, his team in turkey, for 5 yrs) and if he went all the way down to us, to participate in ncaa knowing he will probably be ineligible, but still trying his small chance because he set his goal to nba, then i believe he would work really hard to make his mark in nba.
 
No of course you cant see any problem becuae you think kanter is flawless! I mean wtf??????!!!???

no i think ure flawless, i enjoy reading ur messages so much, keep going like this please
i just wonder after 1-2 yrs, would u be really ashamed and put ur little head under the ground like an ostrich , after enes will prove to be a superstar
 
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