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For People Who Think Hayward's Decision was Predetermined

Would DL trade our second rounder this year for a first rounder? I dunno. I don’t have any evidence that says he would if he could.

Yes, because just like a 2nd round pick being a reasonable market value for a TPE and a first round pick is a reasonable market value for a 2nd round pick. Your analogy is spot on!

Next time, just say "i don't have any information" and move on, it will be less embarrassing for you.
 
Yes, because just like a 2nd round pick being a reasonable market value for a TPE and a first round pick is a reasonable market value for a 2nd round pick. Your analogy is spot on!

Next time, just say "i don't have any information" and move on, it will be less embarrassing for you.
I’d be quite surprised if you could find another person on this forum who wouldn’t be certain that DL would trade a second rounder for a $30M TPE. The answer to that question is so self-evident that you’d need evidence to say he wouldn’t do it.
 
Here is the thing you are all seeming to miss... It would have hard capped them. I am not sure they were going to exceed the amount, but I believe that was the bigger issue.

I did miss that. Could you please explain how the SNT would have hard-capped the Celtics, while signing Haywood as a FA would not have hard-capped them? Thanks.
 
I’d be quite surprised if you could find another person on this forum who wouldn’t be certain that DL would trade a second rounder for a $30M TPE. The answer to that question is so self-evident that you’d need evidence to say he wouldn’t do it.

I think you are arguing with yourself over minutiae, or just being obtuse for some reason. I did not say DL did not offer a 2nd. I did not say he should not have offered a 2nd. I'm saying no one knows whether he did or not, a point that you already conceded. Your opinion that DL would have been a complete idiot for not offering a 2nd is honkey-dorey with me. So what are you disagreeing with exactly?

Again (one last time) -- my main point has been that there is no reason for Ainge to give away the TPE for nothing. Nor is there any precedent for this type of transaction in the NBA under the current CBA. So bashing Ainge for following the current norm seems silly. I'm not a lover or defender of Ainge. I'm a Sixers fan from the 70s and 80s so I hate the Celtics more than y'all do. There are plenty of real reasons to hate them, we don't need to fabricate new ones.
 
I’d be quite surprised if you could find another person on this forum who wouldn’t be certain that DL would trade a second rounder for a $30M TPE. The answer to that question is so self-evident that you’d need evidence to say he wouldn’t do it.

Yeah, any team would do that in a heart beat. At worst this allows a team to take on a salary dump for a decent asset. This is a great deal for any team in pretty much any situation.
 
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