Politicking is a flip-flopping, say-what-you-need-to business. It is the nature of the business. The dems have done a good job of labeling Mitt a flip flopper. And there is plenty of evidence that he has flipped. But Barack is not that different.
In the heat of battle, Obama claimed that Congress proposed the Sequester: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...651dc6a-1eed-11e2-ba31-3083ca97c314_blog.html
In case of gay marriage Obama was against it before he was for it:
https://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76109.html
In the case of Mitt Romney not having a economic/tax plan that doesn’t add up, CNN thinks similarly of Obama’s:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...and_says_obamas_math_still_doesnt_add_up.html
Obama said on John Stewart (I paraphrase) regarding the Bengazi incident “We have told the American people everything we knew as it was unfolding.” (No source, but that is certainly not true and I wouldn’t even want the president (or his office) giving play-by-play.)
Now this could go on and on from both sides. One thing that is certainly a “fact” : the dems have portrayed (rightly or wrongly) that Mitt is a flopper (taking the baton from the republican primary activities.) And similar branding effort, I heard a lot in 2008, how Barack was MIA as a senator “hardly ever voting – his voting average is abysmal.” Yes that is a fact. His average is in FACT turrible. But looking at the two voting records on the web links below, you can see that with a ‘reasonable amount of fairness’ that McCain’s and Obama’s voting records are quite similar… during the time they are running for president. It was just easier to make a FACT out of Obama’s record because his spans all of 4 years. (Easier to get a crappy average.) In politics, in business, we take these nice facts and use them to our advantage.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/barack_obama/400629
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/john_mccain/300071
I find it painfully difficult to get any sort of unbiased reporting, analysis or information from any direction. But is it actually easier than I think?? Can you just make an assessment on about 5-10 or so topics and then your decision is straight forward:
Whose policies do you prefer on: Economics, Social Values, Foreign Policy
1 – Obama is or is not responsible for the lack of economic recovery
2 – Mitt Romney would be better/worse for economy
3 – You believe that lower taxes are an economic stimulus
4 – You believe that govt spending is an economic stimulus
5 – you believe that more larger/ socialistic govt is a better model than less govt
6 – you side with the liberal/conservative view of social values
Is it this simple? Which of you on the liberal side can articulate the 10 values that represent Barack Obama views and which of you on the conservative side can articulate the 10 values that represent the Mitt Romney views?
(I went to the Obama site – Romney’s has been hacked it appears. – There is only rhetoric there.)
In this thread, try not to argue the worth of the 10 values, just what are they, there are lots of other threads where you can tackle each one for its value to the American People.
In the heat of battle, Obama claimed that Congress proposed the Sequester: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...651dc6a-1eed-11e2-ba31-3083ca97c314_blog.html
In case of gay marriage Obama was against it before he was for it:
https://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76109.html
In the case of Mitt Romney not having a economic/tax plan that doesn’t add up, CNN thinks similarly of Obama’s:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...and_says_obamas_math_still_doesnt_add_up.html
Obama said on John Stewart (I paraphrase) regarding the Bengazi incident “We have told the American people everything we knew as it was unfolding.” (No source, but that is certainly not true and I wouldn’t even want the president (or his office) giving play-by-play.)
Now this could go on and on from both sides. One thing that is certainly a “fact” : the dems have portrayed (rightly or wrongly) that Mitt is a flopper (taking the baton from the republican primary activities.) And similar branding effort, I heard a lot in 2008, how Barack was MIA as a senator “hardly ever voting – his voting average is abysmal.” Yes that is a fact. His average is in FACT turrible. But looking at the two voting records on the web links below, you can see that with a ‘reasonable amount of fairness’ that McCain’s and Obama’s voting records are quite similar… during the time they are running for president. It was just easier to make a FACT out of Obama’s record because his spans all of 4 years. (Easier to get a crappy average.) In politics, in business, we take these nice facts and use them to our advantage.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/barack_obama/400629
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/john_mccain/300071
I find it painfully difficult to get any sort of unbiased reporting, analysis or information from any direction. But is it actually easier than I think?? Can you just make an assessment on about 5-10 or so topics and then your decision is straight forward:
Whose policies do you prefer on: Economics, Social Values, Foreign Policy
1 – Obama is or is not responsible for the lack of economic recovery
2 – Mitt Romney would be better/worse for economy
3 – You believe that lower taxes are an economic stimulus
4 – You believe that govt spending is an economic stimulus
5 – you believe that more larger/ socialistic govt is a better model than less govt
6 – you side with the liberal/conservative view of social values
Is it this simple? Which of you on the liberal side can articulate the 10 values that represent Barack Obama views and which of you on the conservative side can articulate the 10 values that represent the Mitt Romney views?
(I went to the Obama site – Romney’s has been hacked it appears. – There is only rhetoric there.)
In this thread, try not to argue the worth of the 10 values, just what are they, there are lots of other threads where you can tackle each one for its value to the American People.