From Mormon Women, a Flood of Requests and Questions on Their Role in the Church | NY Times
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Instead of subsituting the name of a religious denomination you should be asking yourself why that post is the way it is.
Regarding the "being a member of the Church is a privilege that you have to qualify for" quote... while I think I get what Qman and Triangle Man* are saying, I would never say that myself. I think saying "being a member of the Church involves certain responsibilities and obligations" is a much better way of putting it. Unless I'm misunderstanding what they mean.
* don't get in a fight with him, Triangle Man always wins
* don't get in a fight with him, Triangle Man always wins
PearlWatson
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Misremembering how to say it better?
I get behind the way you said it. "Membership is a privilege" sounds like a country club.
Triangle Man does not always win. Sometimes he quits.
Typo that I fixed, should have been "misunderstanding"
I suppose my response was in regards to this, and not the privilege part.
"I cringe at the thought of one sinful man deciding the fate (church membership or otherwise) of another sinful man based on the magnitude of the sin being greater than his own."
Don't get me wrong, I get behind the idea that each man and woman seek their own truth and cast their lot where each deems best fit for them.
Mine is only an opinion and not argumentative at all. I simply believe it's against the message of Jesus and especially that of love that a sinner can expel another sinner from what the first sinner calls the only one true way. It just reeks of pharisees to me... but, again, to each their own.
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Dodo wins the thread for bringing up Mary Magdalene. I'd personally suggest reading her gospel, and then considering its history and the process by which it was excluded from the canon.
For the sake of discussion, let's scrap the idea that different genders should have the same roles, and adopt the notion that they have essentially different 'powers' or access to the spirit. One can then imagine a number of spiritual practices where there would be different but equally respected insights into spiritual matters. On what grounds would it be denied that one insight was less insightful than the other(s)? What force establishes that hierarchy? (Serious questions).
Mormonism has long been a proponent of difference among the genders. I don't see that position as absolutely wrong (a discussion for another post). But it's obvious that Mormons also rank the insights from men over the insights from women, and I think they do it vehemently and for bad reasons (are there good reasons?).
For the sake of discussion, let's scrap the idea that different genders should have the same roles, and adopt the notion that they have essentially different 'powers' or access to the spirit. One can then imagine a number of spiritual practices where there would be different but equally respected insights into spiritual matters. On what grounds would it be denied that one insight was less insightful than the other(s)? What force establishes that hierarchy? (Serious questions).
Mormonism has long been a proponent of difference among the genders. I don't see that position as absolutely wrong (a discussion for another post). But it's obvious that Mormons also rank the insights from men over the insights from women, and I think they do it vehemently and for bad reasons (are there good reasons?).