Gabriele Procida watch thread

[CVJ]

I was doing some interwebs surfing and came upon GP's Euroleague numbers this season and they are quite modest. Matty Ice is having a better statistical year. GP's three point percentage is awful. He is averaging 9.7 ppg and puts him in the neighborhood of Juancho, Trent Forrest, Luka S and Yurt7. All of the Jazz alums have a better three point percentage. Interestingly Bolomboy is the leading rebounder in the league and shoots a better three point percentage than GP. Former Stars player and Celtic Carsen Edwards is the 2nd leading scorer in the league. My take is GP ain't the savior.

He's only playing 20mpg this season, as he's an emerging young player and the team shares minutes (he's 6th on the team). Alba Berlin are also really bad (for EL).

Positive signs are his 2P%, which is among the highest, especially for his role/position. His 3P shooting does need work.

 

[Miggs]

Let’s say this guy comes over next year and joins us. And we get Flagg and he’s what we all think he is. And Collier and Kessler and George all take half leaps…and Lauri returns to form from 2022-2023.

How good could we be? Could we be a play-in team?

 

[NUMBERICA]

Let’s say this guy comes over next year and joins us. And we get Flagg and he’s what we all think he is. And Collier and Kessler and George all take half leaps…and Lauri returns to form from 2022-2023.

How good could we be? Could we be a play-in team?

This kid doesn’t figure in. At all.

Jazz probably would’ve been knocking on the play-in this year if they weren’t pulling shenanigans. Well, at least if Lauri was fully healthy which I don’t think he was.

So yeah, I don’t think it would be hard to be in the play-in conversation but the bigger issue is that the Jazz won’t want to cough up a pick in the teens to the Thunder. They’re probably going to tank their asses off again as they need to end the season with one of the four worst records to ensure they keep the pick. At that point, you might as well just go all the way bad and try to get yourself something nicer.

TLDR; refer to the initial point.

 

[Losing Interest]

Looking for help regarding pick owed to OKC. If Utah does not convey the 2026 pick to OKC (Jazz are back in the 1-8 range), what happens to the pick owed?

 

[FalseFlagg K]

This is really confusing to me. Juzang is the quintessential glue guy every contending team needs, and the perfect guy to stabilize a roster for a team in rebuild mode.

What’s not to love about him?? I mean he’s a very good shooter, he’s reliable defender, and plays with in himself, and doesn’t do too much. The jazz issue over the years is they load up on too many ball stoppers. This dude is a mover we need more of that.

i agree with your idiotic assessment

 

[Coach Ellis]

Looking for help regarding pick owed to OKC. If Utah does not convey the 2026 pick to OKC (Jazz are back in the 1-8 range), what happens to the pick owed?

I believe it becomes two 2nd round picks.

 

[HermanG]

I believe it becomes two 2nd round picks.

Im like 90% sure it just extinguishes and they get nothing.

 

[Park Bites]

I believe it becomes two 2nd round picks.

The Utah Jazz owe the Oklahoma City Thunder their 2025 first-round draft pick, which is top-10 protected. This pick was part of a trade in 2021 where the Jazz sent Derrick Favors to the Thunder in exchange for a future second-round pick. The protection on the pick will become top-8 protected in 2026, and if it doesn't convey by then, Utah will owe OKC their 2028 second-round pick.

 

[HermanG]

The Utah Jazz owe the Oklahoma City Thunder their 2025 first-round draft pick, which is top-10 protected. This pick was part of a trade in 2021 where the Jazz sent Derrick Favors to the Thunder in exchange for a future second-round pick. The protection on the pick will become top-8 protected in 2026, and if it doesn't convey by then, Utah will owe OKC their 2028 second-round pick.

I dont know if this an AI answer or whether you copy pasted this from some article, but this is 100% false information. Our 2028 2nd rounder belongs to OKC regardless and it was traded to them together with Miye Oni for cash considerations in 2022. There is an official press release about that trade from both OKC and from us that verifies this.

According to Deseret article from last June (linked below) and Fanspo future draft pick listings the first rounder we owe to OKC just extuinguishes if it hits protections in 2026 as well. I cannot find any source that claims it converts to anything.

Explaining the Jazz’s protections on draft pick that was traded to OKC

The Jazz still owe the Thunder a first-round pick ... for now

www.deseret.com

 

[idiot]

I dont know if this an AI answer or whether you copy pasted this from some article, but this is 100% false information. Our 2028 2nd rounder belongs to OKC regardless and it was traded to them together with Miye Oni for cash considerations in 2022. There is an official press release about that trade from both OKC and from us that verifies this.

According to Deseret article from last June (linked below) and Fanspo future draft pick listings the first rounder we owe to OKC just extuinguishes if it hits protections in 2026 as well. I cannot find any source that claims it converts to anything.

Explaining the Jazz’s protections on draft pick that was traded to OKC

The Jazz still owe the Thunder a first-round pick ... for now

www.deseret.com

Never seen this site before, so I can't vouch for it, but it does say converts to 2028 2nd rounder: https://www.salaryswish.com/trades/players/derrick-favors

But yeah, it seems to be the only one saying that that I can find.

 

[HermanG]

Never seen this site before, so I can't vouch for it, but it does say converts to 2028 2nd rounder: https://www.salaryswish.com/trades/players/derrick-favors

But yeah, it seems to be the only one saying that that I can find.

I guess its possible that this option was originally in the deal but it was changed when we made the Miye Oni trade.

I really wish NBA would provide an official source for future draft rights and any conditions attached to them.

 

[hgb]

I guess its possible that this option was originally in the deal but it was changed when we made the Miye Oni trade.

I really wish NBA would provide an official source for future draft rights and any conditions attached to them.

2026 first round draft pick to Oklahoma City
Utah's 2026 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-8 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Utah's obligation to Oklahoma City will be extinguished) [Oklahoma City-Utah, 7/30/2021; Oklahoma City-Utah, 1/4/2022]

This is what realgm.com says (and you, which I also thought was the case). I've always found their future draft pick page (https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed) to be very good and accurate.